LRM 2.0 Released!

[RvEYoda]

Sounds good Kuky,

 

Update :

RvE 80s server is back in HL, running LRM 2.1, more info here :

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=691519#post691519

 

New version soon, 2.2 :

This introduces the ability to enable *New ECM*.

This makes ECM able to DENY locks at long ranges.

Each plane has its own ECM and ECCM curves to calculate

propabilities if lock can be sustained or not.

 

This is likely to be the last new feature to LRM 2!

Then ill let it run a few mths, and we'll see if we find any problems with it.

 

The strongest ECM curves are given to the Flanker and Frogfoot, while

the strongest ECCM curves are given to the Eagle and Flanker.

.

Edited May 19, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[RvEYoda]

V 2.2 released!

[wed]

=RVE=Yoda do u have flight manual for Eagle?

[RvEYoda]

For an older variant yes

[Pilotasso]

Wiked stuff, ECM blinkers re-aquisition, ECCM range estimation hehe

 

I am liking it, just one suggestion: when the cursor jumps arround the estimated jamming target range so does the radar scope range selection. It swaps so fast Im not sure what the radar is trying to tell me. could you make it so that the radar selects only one range slection at a time (i.e. internaly in the LUA, the script "knows" target position and selects radar range accordingly avoiding confusing the pilot), or just selectr radar range by average range estimation in the last few seconds.

 

Cheers.

[Boberro]

Yesterday such n00b was enjoying with ECM blink.....

 

I fired ER from about 40 km, he blinked... but radar relocked and ER continued flight... what great feeling when you kill blinker :D

[RvEYoda]

Wiked stuff, ECM blinkers re-aquisition, ECCM range estimation hehe

 

I am liking it, just one suggestion: when the cursor jumps arround the estimated jamming target range so does the radar scope range selection. It swaps so fast Im not sure what the radar is trying to tell me. could you make it so that the radar selects only one range slection at a time (i.e. internaly in the LUA, the script "knows" target position and selects radar range accordingly avoiding confusing the pilot), or just selectr radar range by average range estimation in the last few seconds.

 

Cheers.

 

A variant of your second suggestion is very useful. What i mean is, keep the current cursor behaviour, BUT,

scale only changes if the "jumping range" consistently calls a new scale for about 2 seconds. Ill see what I can do about this.

 

I'm also working on a new button for target step that won't require any new view.lua.

It will still work with the old view.lua, but after this new update you can also use a button directly,

witout any client installation.

 

As you may know the Alt+2 autopilot is absolutely useless in the F-15, since H does the same thing.

So I will replaced it with the target step (only for F-15).

 

These two things and a few tweaks to antibarrellExploit will be fixed in the next update, 2.2b

(There was a rare bug discovered by 169th mogas that caused antibarrellExploit to trigger

if missile lock was broken just a second before impact)

Edited May 20, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[Mustang]

Hehe, i recall this little song from many many moons ago about ECM blinking :D

 

http://www.vvs504.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=4209

[RvEYoda]

.

 

2.2c is out. Fixes :

Better anti barrell sploit script

- Slightly less aggressive and solved a few bugs

 

No need to install clientside target step mod

- you can still install the clientside part if you want to, then use CTL KP0.

- If not installing clientside part, Use ALT+2 (not keypad)

 

Better F-15 graphics of ECCM scale change changing algorithm

- max 1 scale change per 2.5 seconds

 

Flanker and Mig radars remember target range setting and elevation

- No Longer resets to 10 km estimated range

- Now correctly remembers elevation

- correctly remembers range (except vs ecm where a small random factor is added)

 

 

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Edited May 20, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[wed]

For an older variant yes

Is it classified?

can u send this for me?

[GGTharos]

You can buy it on eflightmanuals.com probably - but I don't think they are permitted to export.

[RvEYoda]

Fixed a small bug

Fixed a small bug, that caused the G15 export to fail

(and error log to show a million errors).

Check so your 2.2c script is dated 21st

[RvEYoda]

Feature dependencies diagram released

[Frostie]

Im curious to know where the ECCM figures your working to are coming from? Or is it just an estimation?

[RvEYoda]

It is a compilation of different data.

One source is for example from mi29 pilots i talked to concerning bvr exdcercises.

Others are events that have happened, and for example publicly released information from real red flags,

Others are estimations based on that we know Type A is stronger than type B

For example F-15 radar v Mig29 Radar we know real data on fighter detection

ranges etc, documented events of F-15 first version APG-63 had detection

range on fighters just little short of 100 nm (lockon is about 60 nm) etc, while

a current export mig29 will achieve the same situation about 40 km out (upgraded model), it

would increase somewhat for non export model, likely in the range 60+, up to 80 km for modern variants.

We also have aircraft engineers, also others graduation in simialr fields (ie sensors etc),

and of other squads connections to avionics specialist, yada yada. There is a lot of stuff.

There is too much to even mention ;)

 

But basically ECM/ECCM is made to move the game in a general direction

much closer to fighter combat ECM warfare, rather than equiping pure

noise jamming more common to ECM aircraft or BIG planes (like huge bombers

/transports)

 

ECM is a VERY classified, so getting super accurate data is impossible for any sim,

but we can make sure to move significantly closer to a behaviour that at least better

represents real situations. This is similar to ECM move by lead pursuit in AF.

An incredible amount of research has been done by Falcon community over the years,

and instead of calling it "oh thats falcon crap", we should use this data assembled to the

best of our abilities and be thankful someone did this awesome job for us.

 

So it's an *intelligent estimation* ;). Lockon's own basic ECM implementation has some

use for single player, but is imo largely insufficient for effective multiplayer competitiveness.

The estimations have been made with *bonus points* for russian aircraft, so that we can stop

hearing this "oh this is an eagle mod" ***.

 

Your normal fighter ECM is most likely to be automated reactive.

You give your ECM system consent to emit (that does not mean it starts emitting when you pressed the button ),

and it will later decide wheter to(or not) emit jamming signal(s) of

different type and target (yes jamming usually has a target, you jam someone specific, and there is a limit

to how much/many you can attempt to jam). Often there are angle constraints among other things (im sure

there are other peopel on this forum that can give a better explanation).

Bottom line is, ECM on a fighter rarely would go into an "emit to all everywhere" mode.

It would also not likely trigger emit on some long range search nails. (assuming its rwr is

perfect enough to detect it), unless you have a modern (think way past lockon era) ecm.

Think *im flying in enemy territory, a SAM could fly at me any time* - And you would not get a

warning until the last second where the enemy sam operator turns on his radar. when the missile

is already sufficiently close to you! - You need an ECM that doesnt emit until really necessary (so

as not to alert others nearby), but you need to have it start emitting INSTANTLY as soon as

that tracking radar starts painting you. Flying in with a pure noise jammer that always emits would

be suidice if you want to remain somewhat stealthy. (but it could be useful in the situation where you

fly in a big package with dedicated ECM AC to spearhead it and jam enemy installations)

 

Edit:

Update the script to 2.2d.

Basically just performance increases.

Reorganized the script so it's much easier to read etc.

Less global variables loaded.

Edited May 22, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[RvEYoda]

On request, I have begun investigating new ideas

on how to deal with maddoging.

This would affect R-77, Amraam and ET.

 

Although the real amraam is maddog capable, the current representation

in lockon makes the game less realistic.

 

I will see if its possible to make this. I already know a way to prevent

R77 and Amraam to be maddogged, so its just a matter of making it for the

ET as well. Working on it!

Edited May 22, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[RvEYoda]

its up to server admin to decide whether to enable this specific feature or not.

And I never thought i'd see that day when someone thinks my mod makes Flanker/Mig too powerful ;).

While I do agree with you, I'm gonna let server admins decide which missiles should be maddogable and which should not.

Edited May 22, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[RvEYoda]

well, still, it's up to the server admin what he decides.

RvE Server will allow amraam maddogs but not ETs probably.

We'll see.

 

Everyone keeps talking about the f-15 having super stats. Can you please show me?

I'd just like to see these numbers.

[X-man]

Everyone keeps talking about the f-15 having super stats. Can you please show me?

I'd just like to see these numbers.

The only "super" I know of...

 

http://www.51st.org/stats/aces.php?pid=09all

[RvEYoda]

Hmm. Seems to be breakshot then.

I dont think we can account all his success to the aircraft.

It is probably his own dedication that got him such score.

[X-man]

Hmm. Seems to be breakshot then.

I dont think we can account all his success to the aircraft.

It is probably his own dedication that got him such score.

Yeah, but considering he has been flying the flanker for ALOT longer, and yet his F-15 stats are way above the Su-27 stats. Let's just say, the F-15 is more consistent...

[RvEYoda]

no, F-15 is more consistent for HIM ;).

There is no statistical evidence for the aircraft by presenting one pilot's superior loggbook

[RvEYoda]

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Release of 2.2e

 

 

 

• Reduces or fixes problem of *infinite error log after dying*(which can cause crash when dying)
  
• Flaps script no longer affect Su25(t) or A-10
  
• Fix problem with flickering russian mfd
  

 

 

Introduces 3 experimental features :

 

 

• NoETmaddog
  - Automatically deselects ET unless seeker head has a lock in LNG
  mode. In other modes it calculates an optimistic estimate of ET seeker
  range against afterburning target, and takes into accound 3d aspect angle
  offset from target nose. Assumes AB target, so range is
  optimistic. Expect to be allowed to fire ET about 5-10% farther than
  normal range when seeker aquires (but still better than before)
  - Possible problem, only ET left on plane, cannot deselect. If you
  maddog here then you get stuck in NAV mode for 30 seconds and
  engines off.
  Reason it cannot be made better : Lockon doesnt export LAO status,
  and the input command is only a toggle.
  .
  
• NoAmraamMaddog
  - Impossible to select AMRAAM without radar target.
  If you have target, unlock, it selects next weapon. If you relock, it
  goes back to AMRAAM. (unless you changed manually to something in between)
  Reason why it cannot be made better : lockon doesnt export Master ARM status,
  and the lua input command is only a toggle
  .
  
• AmraamLaunchSpacing
  - Master arm OFF for 1.5 seconds after AMRAAM has been launched,
  then toggled on again
  .
  

Use at your own risk, Off by default :)

Ok This time, after this, there really wont be any more features for a LONG time!

 

 

 

Finding when ET seeker has tone.

 

As it turns out, it's almost linear in the important ranges.

 

(3d aspect angle refers to angle from TARGET's nose to your missile head)

 

3D aspect angle is calculated using averaged target velocity vector V1

and your seekers looking vector (in world coordinates) V2

 

By definition of scalar product, the angle theta becomes :

theta = arc.cos [ ( V1 *dot* V2 )/ ( |V1| * |V2| ) ]

 

Detection in game works vey well. Selecting ET's outside the - - - - - line

will not work, and if you bypass it (by dumping all other weapons) and still maddog,

then you get the punishment described earlier. Server Admins can customize/remove punishment.

 

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Edited May 23, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[GGTharos]

According to certain people, Yoda's new ECCM code actually helps the flanker out and makes the R-27ER more effective - how much more effective, I don't know - but I suggest gathering more statistically significant evidence than a single person's stats.

 

Initially - and for certain - any ARH equipped aircraft will gain an advantage with LRM until people unlearn head-on defense against the missiles and start proper defensive maneuvers at the appropriate time - I'm pretty sure I'm preaching to the choir here anyway.

 

 

 

Yeah, but considering he has been flying the flanker for ALOT longer, and yet his F-15 stats are way above the Su-27 stats. Let's just say, the F-15 is more consistent...

[104th_Crunch]

Ok This time, after this, there really wont be any more features for a LONG time!

 

LOL, but just one more idea, just kidding :)