bumfire Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Do the men carrying RPG's fire at the helo ala Blackhawk down style ? I have never noticed it happening in any of the flights I have flown but I would like to know if it has happened ingame to anyone else and if it isnt possible ATM then why did Ed not include RPG's shooting at aircraft, especially low flying helo's since its widely known that such a thing happens in real life.
HitchHikingFlatlander Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 We have Manpads which is essentially a shoulder fired missile its not exactly an RPG in the sense your thinking. But hell damn near anything with a gun will shoot at you once your in range so I think the sim is pretty good in this regard! http://dcs-mercenaries.com/ USA Squad
bumfire Posted June 3, 2009 Author Posted June 3, 2009 Yes but IR missiles are a lot scarier than an unguided RPG round fired at you as you fly past the enemy, I sometimes dont put stinger dudes in missions for various reasons, but I always put RPG dudes in and I would love to see them take a pop at me for flying too close to them. I just think that having RPG's fire off at the helo would be a great thing, if it isnt already implemented into the game.
Panzertard Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Real men use sticks! But afaik - not seen anyone using their RPG at my bald shark ... (yes, bald!) The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning
Dusty Rhodes Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Concur, the RPGmen do not fire at aircraft. It would be nice for an attack logic to be put in for it. Make you pay a price for attacking infantry units. But the hit percentage needs to be down in the teen% range if that. They aren't accurate unless you have a hovering AC. Dusty Rhodes Play HARD, Play FAIR, Play TO WIN Win 7 Professional 64 Bit / Intel i7 4790 Devils Canyon, 4.0 GIG /ASUS Maximus VII Formula Motherboard/ ASUS GTX 1080 8 GB/ 32 Gigs of RAM / Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / TrackIR 5 / 2 Cougar MFD's / Saitek Combat Pedals/ DSD Button Box FLT-1
joey45 Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 The're not that accurate at the best of times.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
slug88 Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Just tested it. It seems that they are very, very reluctant to fire, but they will do so if presented with a very good shot.RPG kill.trk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
bumfire Posted June 3, 2009 Author Posted June 3, 2009 ^ that solves it then, they do fire but probably only if they are guaranteed a win. It's good to know, even though the chances of them hitting anything are slim to none, it would be great to see multiple RPG's go flying past your window whilst ingame, now I spose all I have to do is hover 30 feet off the ground in front of them to do so :)
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Dusty Rhodes Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Well I stand corrected then. I am going to watch out for those booger eaters now! Dusty Rhodes Play HARD, Play FAIR, Play TO WIN Win 7 Professional 64 Bit / Intel i7 4790 Devils Canyon, 4.0 GIG /ASUS Maximus VII Formula Motherboard/ ASUS GTX 1080 8 GB/ 32 Gigs of RAM / Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / TrackIR 5 / 2 Cougar MFD's / Saitek Combat Pedals/ DSD Button Box FLT-1
sshantt Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 There are a group of RPG's in instant action if you get too close to the factory they usualy shoot unless you wait a couple of minutes in which case th Mi's will kill them.Thair right next to the factory which has two tanks and a barracs surrounding it i usualy hover high and far away and get rid of them with my vikhir 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
slug88 Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) There are a group of RPG's in instant action if you get too close to the factory they usualy shoot unless you wait a couple of minutes in which case th Mi's will kill them.Thair right next to the factory which has two tanks and a barracs surrounding it i usualy hover high and far away and get rid of them with my vikhir The guys you're referring to are equipped a Strela MANPAD, not at RPG. The Strela is an IR anti-aircraft guided missile launcher, a far cry from the unguided RPG-7 we're discussing. Strela: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strela_2 RPG-7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-7 Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, the MANPAD team in the instant action mission might have been equipped with an Igla portable IR SAM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igla Edited June 3, 2009 by slug88 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team JimMack Posted June 4, 2009 ED Team Posted June 4, 2009 something new every day...got to love this place.. I agree. RPGs will shoot you if you are hovering close to them. If you flyby they do not bother to shoot. I think this is realistic. With an RPG I would not even try to hit a moving helicopter. The chance of success would be extremely low, and the chance of retaliation very high if my launch was spotted! Having problems? Visit http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Main_Page Dell Laptop M1730 -Vista- Intel Core 2 Duo T7500@2.2GHz, 4GB, Nvidia 8700MGT 767MB Intel i7 975 Extreme 3.2GHZ CPU, NVidia GTX 570 1.28Gb Pcie Graphics.
sshantt Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) I guess what you saying is true cos they usualy shoot me moving toards them. btw are the infantry soldiers infornt of the building in the same mission with you or against you cos the game tells me mission complete before i even touch them. If anybody is interested i made a VAC profile which has everything in it check it out http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=42272&highlight=VAC it realy helps when you cant reach your keyboard in a manuver or some thing Edited June 4, 2009 by sshantt [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team JimMack Posted June 4, 2009 ED Team Posted June 4, 2009 As I am sure many of you are aware, in Operation Mogadishu, the first Blackhawk was shot down by an RPG which hit the tail rotor. It was moving slowly, and it was a lucky hit. Having problems? Visit http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Main_Page Dell Laptop M1730 -Vista- Intel Core 2 Duo T7500@2.2GHz, 4GB, Nvidia 8700MGT 767MB Intel i7 975 Extreme 3.2GHZ CPU, NVidia GTX 570 1.28Gb Pcie Graphics.
159th_Viper Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 ...The chance of success would be extremely low, and the chance of retaliation very high if my launch was spotted! Indeed - you just know a World of Hurt is going to descend! See this Vid - 21 sec's in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9R3fhl4cE Somehow I do not think he can reload faster than the 30mm can slave........ Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Panzertard Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 I agree. RPGs will shoot you if you are hovering close to them. If you flyby they do not bother to shoot. I think this is realistic. With an RPG I would not even try to hit a moving helicopter. The chance of success would be extremely low, and the chance of retaliation very high if my launch was spotted! I think I must have passed one of the truly deranged RPG'ists then - online at the 159th. Had an incident just an hour ago where I was hit by some unidentified strafe. Lost main hydro - decided to RTB. Turned tail and headed back out a valley, while communicating with my wingies over TS when someone in the text-chat on the server shouted "Panzer, RPG". Next thing happened was the familiar "bang" and the sound of betty bitching at me - and a nice cozy bond-fire crackling off in the background. Managed to stabilize at one engine, no hydro and limp back to a very interesting belly landing (backup gear hydro also failed). Too bad the track cant confirm the shooting - it was 2 hour out into the track and it's not aligned with the true events (or places) due to heavy manouvering and heavy winds. Unfortunately track isnt capable of staying in sync for that kind of periods. :( But I'll keep stick with the story that it was an RPG that hit me while ruturning to base flying at 50m and ~180Kph. :pilotfly: The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning
Namenlos Ein Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Seems ED implemented this weapon in the game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftfaust.
fox_111 Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Strela SAM in action. http://www.apacheclips.com/media/7230/NEW_Chechnia_SAM_action/
VS461 Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 RPGs against helos I am also waiting for the RPG threat in the air. Both in Iraq and Afghanistan helos were lost due to RPG hits, they were shot at from the back (that's why guys with M60s are on the ramp of CH-47s and CH-53s). An RPG-7 is much cheaper than MANPAD systems, and with another guy the reload is fast as well (during basic training I fired 2 rockets in 15 secs with buddy-reload, w/o experience). Hard to recognize, no RWR, LWR, no CM... sometimes hits... an ideal threatening weapon on some real theaters nowadays. There are "insurgent" guys in the DCS... they should fire their RPGs against helos. Cheers! За всю историю никто и никогда не сумел завоевать Афганистан. Hикто и никогда
159th_Falcon Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 :lol::megalol::lol::megalol:Real men use sticks! But afaik - not seen anyone using their RPG at my bald shark ... (yes, bald!) :megalol::lol::megalol::lol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
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