reported AI SEADs will not engage any SAMs

[TOMCATZ]

Hello all,

Unfortunatelly since the last updates I have the problem that no AI flight will ever engage enemy air defence.

I set to "search in zone and attack", "search and attack group" or "attack group"- Whatever I tried- nothing works. The flight was always set as "SEAD" flight in mission editor. I used blue forces against reds - It seems to be no matter which system I use: Su-30 with KH31 or F16C with HARMs or F18C with HARMs - They always followed the routes with no action. When I place one WP on the SAM (mostly Sa11 or S300) , they fly to the waypoint until the SAM starts firing. 

Is the logic broken or is it just my system? I would kindly ask the community if somebody has the same problem. 

Thank you very much and Cheers

TOM

 

Caukasus-Battlefield-F14B-CAP-01-DAY.miz Caukasus-Battlefield-F16C-SEAD-01-DAY.miz

[NineLine]

Thanks, I will take a look. 

[ia_pro1691]

On 11/1/2024 at 1:55 PM, TOMCATZ said:

Hello all,

Unfortunatelly since the last updates I have the problem that no AI flight will ever engage enemy air defence.

I set to "search in zone and attack", "search and attack group" or "attack group"- Whatever I tried- nothing works. The flight was always set as "SEAD" flight in mission editor. I used blue forces against reds - It seems to be no matter which system I use: Su-30 with KH31 or F16C with HARMs or F18C with HARMs - They always followed the routes with no action. When I place one WP on the SAM (mostly Sa11 or S300) , they fly to the waypoint until the SAM starts firing. 

Is the logic broken or is it just my system? I would kindly ask the community if somebody has the same problem. 

Thank you very much and Cheers

TOM

 

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I use the "Perform Task->Attack Group" waypoint action. Assign the SAM group you want attacked, select weapon as ARM and it should work. I also always delete the default Enroute Task of SEAD. This set up gets me AI units shooting HARMs at SAMs

[NineLine]

Yes, it appears to be not working again. It was fixed recently and must have unfixed itself. It's working internally so I am hoping they are already all over it. Thanks. 

[Agim]

Just note, I tested it yesterday, AI SEAD F-16C blk.50 works fine, but F-16C blk.52 still dont engage.

[BIGNEWY]

Just be aware sometimes if you give a sead task inside the zone of detection of the SAM the AI can choose not to engage. Try setting the SEAD task before they get into the danger zone. 

thank you 

[stonewall197922]

29 минут назад, BIGNEWY сказал:

Just be aware sometimes if you give a sead task inside the zone of detection of the SAM the AI can choose not to engage. Try setting the SEAD task before they get into the danger zone. 

thank you 

Please clarify. You mentioned "inside the zone of detection of the SAM" and " get into the danger zone." Thats two different zones. Sa-10 for instance have preaty big detection zone.

[BIGNEWY]

I mean the threat circles, basically give the AI the SEAD task before they enter the circles and it gives the AI more time to work out the best attack. 

[stonewall197922]

5 минут назад, BIGNEWY сказал:

I mean the threat circles, basically give the AI the SEAD task before they enter the circles and it gives the AI more time to work out the best attack. 

Theres two different zones. Detection and Engagement. You mean set task outside sam detection distance?

[BIGNEWY]

6 minutes ago, stonewall197922 said:

Theres two different zones. Detection and Engagement. You mean set task outside sam detection distance?

sorry for not being clearer for your, I said circles, meaning both. So try setting the task outside the detection zone and see if it helps. 

Let me know if it does help, I know Nineline is also checking the issue 

[stonewall197922]

В 05.11.2024 в 15:58, BIGNEWY сказал:

sorry for not being clearer for your, I said circles, meaning both. So try setting the task outside the detection zone and see if it helps. 

Let me know if it does help, I know Nineline is also checking the issue 

In my case helped to restrict jettison. At the begining sam evade maneuver, ai just jettisoned fuel tanks with other weapons.