Lack of fog and no dust storm either

[Rockrend]

Hi all,

As like everyone else today, I'm playing around with the new fog settings.  I do have a problem where fog doesn't seem to work in the Afghanistan map.  Is anyone seeing the same?  It does work in other maps.

Thanks in advance

[Mongol193]

Hi. I had the same impression at first. I played around with Syria, Caucasus and Afghanistan to understand what is going on and I think I found out why it appears that the new Fog and Dust storm do not work.

Simply put the new System takes 0ft at sea as its base and since afghanistan is a rather elevated map, even at its lowest points in the southwest, the Fog/dust is "too far below the terrain" to appear above the surface. You would have to use manual Fog settings to make it work properly. Since duststorm has no thickness option, its pretty much useless on the map.

Also Afghanistan seems to not have received the new lighting maps that make cities glow in Fog and illuminate clouds above them.

[Nikwax74]

Seems to be the case with Nevada as well. No dust storm or fog showing, no matter what the height or visibility settings are...

[PLUTON]

I get fog in Nevada with an elevation of 1000 meters minimum

[Rockrend]

6 hours ago, Nikwax74 said:

Seems to be the case with Nevada as well. No dust storm or fog showing, no matter what the height or visibility settings are...

As per @PLUTON message, try setting manual fog to a thickness that is above ground level.  I tried this and it works well.

Thank you all for your replies.  I didn't account for the elevation and with that in mind, the fog now works.  Much appreciated

[Hawkeye_UK]

i started a post about this issue within a few hours of the patch coming out, its nothing to do with Afgan, everything to do with the way ED have modelled the manual fog setting from 0MSL.

I asked the question are the maps modelled for adiabatic lapse rate and due points, no reply as yet, but if they haven't modelled in a temperature gradient then the fog is about as useful, and realistic as a chocolate fireguard.  I know they will take zero account of the terrain that the weather is on (aka water features not contributing)

Why the manual setting's didnt account for an airfield setting, within a zone is beyond me - no instead we have to drown out the whole map.  ED doing ED things it seems.

[Nikwax74]

Not to hijack the topic, but that might be true for fog, and not for the dust storm, which has only a visibility slider. Dust storm works on mostly sea level maps like PG (even though it looks pretty strange, that the sand storm covers the sea), but not on Nevada or Afghanistan, where it would make quite a lot of sense.

[HR-Crumble]

Sand storm only shows on Syria for me at 23000ft and above viz set on the slider. Anything set below that and no dust is shown. I also get random miz files where despite setting orret altitude of fog you do not get the fog.

It feels like dust and fog is somewhat inconsistent or broken.

[draconus]

On 12/6/2024 at 6:41 PM, Nikwax74 said:

even though it looks pretty strange, that the sand storm covers the sea

Not at all.

https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/images/114728/dust-storm-over-the-persian-gulf/114728t

[Nikwax74]

Even if this phenomenon could happen a few times a year, it is still not realistic how DCS currently depicts it with a uniform dust cover at 1000 ft all over the Persian Gulf. I would prefer a gradual fade out over the border between the land and the sea.

[draconus]

38 minutes ago, Nikwax74 said:

Even if this phenomenon could happen a few times a year, it is still not realistic how DCS currently depicts it with a uniform dust cover at 1000 ft all over the Persian Gulf. I would prefer a gradual fade out over the border between the land and the sea.

Afaik this is rendered as sphere top (Earth curvature) seen from camera location so you should be able to see the borders when you get higher because of our maps flatness.

Edited February 21 by draconus

[Nealius]

Fog works for me if I set thickness to above Afghanistan's elevation. Dust storm does not because that thickness appears to be fixed, and below the map's elevation.