Remastered F-15C

[Gunfreak]

7 minutes ago, Kev2go said:

The only difference between ff and fc tier should be  lower complexity of operations. Ie the lack of clickability of cockpits and simpler avionics systems, not visual quality.

If not by the same logic ed should of downgraded mig15, f86 , and f5e 3d models so the ff modules look better then what was included in fc 2024

Again, not sure what you are on about, the F86, MiG15 and F5 before the F5 remaster, doesn't look any better then the FC3 aircraft, I'd say they look worse then the FC3 aircraft after the FC3 update in march. 

So not sure what you are on about.

An only you claim that FC3 should only differ in complexity, nobody has ever made that claim before.

FC3 was aircraft brought over from Lock on, they have had several upgrades since, both visual and flight modeling fixes. And only you seem to demand they have to make these cheap aircraft from 2005, look as good as 80 dollar aircraft made in 2024.

[Kev2go]

1 hour ago, Gunfreak said:

Again, not sure what you are on about, the F86, MiG15 and F5 before the F5 remaster, doesn't look any better then the FC3 aircraft, I'd say they look worse then the FC3 aircraft after the FC3 update in march. 

So not sure what you are on about.

An only you claim that FC3 should only differ in complexity, nobody has ever made that claim before.

FC3 was aircraft brought over from Lock on, they have had several upgrades since, both visual and flight modeling fixes. And only you seem to demand they have to make these cheap aircraft from 2005, look as good as 80 dollar aircraft made in 2024.

Yes flaming cliffs 2024 sold as a new product for its price tag should looked like a 2024 game and just be fc3 with dumbed down copy paste mig15, f86, and f5e thrown in. Reflect maybe why it had mixed reviews on steam unlike Fc3, precisely for the sort of reasons i stated above.  

The reason an individual ff module costs as much as it does is the systems complexity not because the 3d model looks pretty for the time it was developed, compared to a predessor.

 

Edited December 23, 2024 by Kev2go

[jaguara5]

There are so many threads /  requests here in the forum about a FF F-15C, before and  after the release of the SE and the RZ situation, that  i think ED should at some point consider seriously the possibility to do that.  

[Spino]

My main point here is an avionics and weapons upgrade for the F-15C.  Specifically an FC-simplified version of JHMCS coupled with AIM-9X.  Improved visual quality would be nice, but avionics are the main thing in my book.  Of course a full-fidelity F-15C would also presumably have JHMCS and AIM-9X, but I imagine an avionics and weapon table upgrade for the existing F-15C would be significantly easier.

[bies]

FC3-like simplified F-15C would be pointless and zero revenue for the developer.

But just like full fidelity MiG-29 9.12 - full fidelity either 1980s/Desert Storm F-15C MISPII, especially now with so many 1980s era modules coming to DCS and Iraq map  or mid-2000s F-15C with JHMCS, Link 16, AESA APG-63(V)2 radar as mid-2000s F-16 and F/A-18 we have - would be great. Or maybe both.

[ssamayoa]

I want a clickable F-15C.

No need to be FF, just clickable because I fly with VR.

Because of that I skip low fidelity planes.

Edited December 30, 2024 by ssamayoa

[rob10]

1 hour ago, ssamayoa said:

I want a clickable F-15C.

No need to be FF, just clickable because I fly with VR.

Because of that I skip low fidelity planes.

Legit wish, just realize that part of the reason the FC2024 planes are cheaper is partly the lower quality model, but also because they don't have to do programming for clickable cockpit etc, so realize if your wish was granted it would likely increase the cost.  In the case of the F-15C there might be a business case for that since it seems to be a popular plane, but I wouldn't count on seeing it soon.

[Tank50us]

On 12/22/2024 at 9:42 AM, Dr_Pavelheer said:

@LavaFlight One small problem though, F15E is no longer being developed and updated

Technically, this isn't true.

At the moment, things are on hold pending the conflict resolution with RB. It's just a question of who's going to blink first. That whole fiasco started because RB tried to jip ED out of potentially millions of dollars on a simulator deal, and then take that aircraft and sell it to us. Basically double dipping on one plane.

On topic though, I wouldn't mind seeing an updated F-15C added to DCS that gives it a fully functional cockpit. One option I think would work would be to make it one of the customer F-15s, like the JASDF F-15J, which have been getting updated cockpits in recent years.

[Spino]

Well I guess we got our answer on this.  The FF F-15C is coming sometime in the next year or so.

[jye0622]

Personally, I hope that the radar will be configured as AN/APG-70, and that it can be developed for ground attack purposes in the future, and that ED will have a chance to be remastered like the F-15E.

[Spino]

11 hours ago, jye0622 said:

Personally, I hope that the radar will be configured as AN/APG-70, and that it can be developed for ground attack purposes in the future, and that ED will have a chance to be remastered like the F-15E.

I doubt seriously it'll have the APG-70, only a handful of F-15Cs got that radar.  Almost all of them got the APG-63, in keeping with the "not a pound for air to ground" philosophy that the Eagle was originally built with.  IAF F-15Cs have carried bombs before, but the F-15C is generally not an air-to-ground platform.  Theoretically it could buddy lase for LGBs dropped from other aircraft (in recent years that is, since some of them apparently received the capability to carry the Sniper pod), but that's not the version we're getting.  Would be cool if it was, since those F-15s have the old RWR screen replaced with a big MFD, but if my information is correct then we're getting a 2005-2007ish F-15C with JHMCS, AIM-9X, datalink, and the APG-63v1 radar.

Edited January 24 by Spino

[GunslingerII]

On 1/24/2025 at 10:47 AM, Spino said:

I doubt seriously it'll have the APG-70, only a handful of F-15Cs got that radar.  Almost all of them got the APG-63, in keeping with the "not a pound for air to ground" philosophy that the Eagle was originally built with.  IAF F-15Cs have carried bombs before, but the F-15C is generally not an air-to-ground platform.  Theoretically it could buddy lase for LGBs dropped from other aircraft (in recent years that is, since some of them apparently received the capability to carry the Sniper pod), but that's not the version we're getting.  Would be cool if it was, since those F-15s have the old RWR screen replaced with a big MFD, but if my information is correct then we're getting a 2005-2007ish F-15C with JHMCS, AIM-9X, datalink, and the APG-63v1 radar.

      In the mean time , couldn't we be given the aim-9X  for the Eagle without having to find a mod that might happen to apply it to the armament screen.