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Both files end this way:

2025-01-17 21:17:44.241 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Loaded D:/Program Files/Eagle Dynamics/DCS World OpenBeta/Mods/aircraft/Ka-50_3/bin/Ka50.dll
2025-01-17 21:17:49.294 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Loaded D:/Program Files/Eagle Dynamics/DCS World OpenBeta/Mods/aircraft/Ka-50_3/bin/CockpitKa50.dll
2025-01-17 21:18:15.137 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Loaded D:/Program Files/Eagle Dynamics/DCS World OpenBeta/Mods/aircraft/Ka-50_3/bin/CockpitKa50_3.dll
2025-01-17 21:18:15.171 INFO    DXGUI_WIN_ADAPTER (Main): resize main window to [1920, 1080]
2025-01-17 21:18:15.192 INFO    DXGUI_WIN_ADAPTER (Main): resize main window to [0, 0]
2025-01-17 21:18:15.267 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer:: (Main): m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end()
2025-01-17 21:18:15.292 INFO    APP (Main): Skip deleteDynGroupByUnitID, its not dynamic slot unit
2025-01-17 21:18:15.308 WARNING LOG (2668): 1 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2025-01-17 21:18:15.308 ERROR   Lua::Config (Main): Call error release_player_slot:bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil).
2025-01-17 21:18:15.312 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 36.8ms

I see it happened while entering a Ka-50 III after leaving the Su-33 seat.

Have you made sure your "Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input\Ka-50 III" folder is problem-free? (no old .diff.lua or .lua, no folder other than "joystick", "mouse", "trackir" or "keyboard"?)

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Yes, I made sure. Generally, I quickly wrote down these logs, but the problem also affects other planes. I'm looking for the problem. I found that I used to have a mouse with many buttons and I have connections to these buttons. I'm slowly removing them in the profiles. I don't know if it will help, but I'm checking.

I wonder if it's not related to dynamic slot selection and it applies to servers where there is no dynamic selection. I checked on the 4YA server and everything loads there without a problem. I don't know if it's a coincidence or if this is where the problem lies

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On 1/18/2025 at 9:21 AM, 318_Bonzo said:

The joy was short-lived. The problem returned. Now, the game sometimes completely shuts down after selecting a plane.
I don't understand where the problem is anymore. One moment it's OK and then it freezes again. The first choice of plane/commander is problem-free - no matter what plane it is. After respawn and changing plane - crash.

I did a Windows 24H2 Repair a couple of days ago and that has helped. I mad-click on my slot and join. The graphics are taking many seconds to load in the cockpit, and on F7 ground objects, when joining in.

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I can also report this issue. I've posted my logs before on the ED discord and no solution. 

I also updated Windows 11 to 24H2 and that was probably when this happened. I've tried complete clean DCS reinstall and that hasn't helped. 

I can also verify that loading into a slot in SP loads normally. And that if you do this BEFORE joining a MP server and picking that same jet/helo you will load into the slot instantly. But if you load into MP "cold" DCS will appear to hang because as seen in the logs people have uploaded the specific plane(whatever plane/helo slot was selected) take MINUTES to load each dll.

So for the ED testers what is the difference between first loading the dlls in SP vs MP?

I've tried this in several servers with TONS of slots and servers with only 6, and it makes no difference. 

Are any ED testers on 24H2?

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1 hour ago, Kondor77 said:

I can also report this issue. I've posted my logs before on the ED discord and no solution. 

I also updated Windows 11 to 24H2 and that was probably when this happened. I've tried complete clean DCS reinstall and that hasn't helped. 

I can also verify that loading into a slot in SP loads normally. And that if you do this BEFORE joining a MP server and picking that same jet/helo you will load into the slot instantly. But if you load into MP "cold" DCS will appear to hang because as seen in the logs people have uploaded the specific plane(whatever plane/helo slot was selected) take MINUTES to load each dll.

So for the ED testers what is the difference between first loading the dlls in SP vs MP?

I've tried this in several servers with TONS of slots and servers with only 6, and it makes no difference. 

Are any ED testers on 24H2?

Same here on basic simple SP mission with only one player plane on runway. If you set plane as client instead of player on mission editor. It loads the mission just fine, but as soon you load the slot, it hangs.

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8 hours ago, Kondor77 said:

Are any ED testers on 24H2?

I'm on 24H2 as well. And I only get the issue when I keep my old .diff.lua files in the Input subfolders. Have you checked your Input subfolders?

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15 hours ago, Kondor77 said:

I can also report this issue. I've posted my logs before on the ED discord and no solution. 

I also updated Windows 11 to 24H2 and that was probably when this happened. I've tried complete clean DCS reinstall and that hasn't helped. 

I can also verify that loading into a slot in SP loads normally. And that if you do this BEFORE joining a MP server and picking that same jet/helo you will load into the slot instantly. But if you load into MP "cold" DCS will appear to hang because as seen in the logs people have uploaded the specific plane(whatever plane/helo slot was selected) take MINUTES to load each dll.

So for the ED testers what is the difference between first loading the dlls in SP vs MP?

I've tried this in several servers with TONS of slots and servers with only 6, and it makes no difference. 

Are any ED testers on 24H2?

Check the dcs.log file and see if the game hangs on each modules .dll file. I did some tests today and everytime when the game hangs on spawning, it's loading for example FA18C.dll.

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Bump. This bug is still happening. 

For a while I thought the solution was to turn off "Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling". However, that might've only been a placebo. 

FYI @BlindeThe ONLY thing that's corrected this issue for me is to once again disable the Supercarrier module. How this module affects every other module and how the game loads their dll files in a MP server...I'll never know. 

 

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I've noticed something very interesting which might have something to do with this issue. When in game, the games runs perfectly. But the whole OS have tends to stutter. For example I am listening to some video on youtube as it was podcast and it is stuttering, freezing, e.t.c... Not jjust the video, but whole browser.

So I have Hypothesis: DCS:W uses all cores - which leads to no free cores for OS processes. This may cause the OS stutters and also this might cause this exact issue.

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On 2/23/2025 at 7:27 AM, AJaromir said:

I've noticed something very interesting which might have something to do with this issue. When in game, the games runs perfectly. But the whole OS have tends to stutter. For example I am listening to some video on youtube as it was podcast and it is stuttering, freezing, e.t.c... Not jjust the video, but whole browser.

So I have Hypothesis: DCS:W uses all cores - which leads to no free cores for OS processes. This may cause the OS stutters and also this might cause this exact issue.

Have you tried turning off Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (HAGS)?

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Posted
2 hours ago, Flappie said:

The next core update will contain a fix for this issue.

Thank You. I am happy that you were able to find cause of this issue. 🙂

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3 hours ago, AJaromir said:

you were able to find cause of this issue. 🙂

I wasn't, devs did. 👍

I hope they are right. We couldn't reproduce the issue after the fix, but since it's a random issue, I'll wait for your feedback a week or two after the next core update before calling it "fixed".

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On 3/20/2025 at 12:20 AM, Flappie said:

@AJaromir You shouldn't get this bug anymore after today's update.

Well, after the last update at least for me it seems that the game freezes for 5 - 10 seconds when click to spawn inside aircraft on multiplayer, issue i never had before the update.

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I still have long freezes when selecting the slot in MP servers. Several minutes and it eventually works, but didn't experience this before previous version.

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Find attached the log of a recent session. First start is the Caucasus BFM MiG-29 instant action mission and it takes nearly 2 minutes and a half to load. Notice the different in the timestamps between these two log lines:

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2025-03-21 16:17:20.116 INFO    APP (Main): MissionSpawn:spawnLocalPlayer 1,FA-18C_hornet
2025-03-21 16:19:49.204 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Loaded D:/Program Files/Eagle Dynamics/DCS World/Mods/aircraft/FA-18C/bin/FA18C.dll
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After that I connected to an MP server and selected slot almost instantaneously, but the first mission load takes too long.

dcs.log

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