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On 1/19/2025 at 10:12 AM, TobiasA said:

what makes you believe that the F-35 really will be ready in 2026? 

Perhaps people are getting that "belief" from the F35 official FAQ?

 

When will it be available?

Development will start in earnest in 2025, with a release goal in 2026.

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Am 15.7.2025 um 19:32 schrieb Scott-S6:

Perhaps people are getting that "belief" from the F35 official FAQ?

 

When will it be available?

Development will start in earnest in 2025, with a release goal in 2026.

The development would happen in a time that would proof that the F-16 is the forgotten child...

I just doubt that they are so fast. But all I care for is the Tiffy. And my beloved Viper.

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On 7/19/2025 at 6:36 PM, TobiasA said:

The development would happen in a time that would proof that the F-16 is the forgotten child...

I just doubt that they are so fast. But all I care for is the Tiffy. And my beloved Viper.

If it's anything like the Viper it'll be released completely under cooked and then take years to gradually fix and complete (it'll soon be 6 years and we only just got a pilot body)

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb Scott-S6:

If it's anything like the Viper it'll be released completely under cooked and then take years to gradually fix and complete (it'll soon be 6 years and we only just got a pilot body)

For the sake of DCS, I hope they won't do it again. And I don't think so.

But yeah... Maybe. I am curious about the MiG-29 though. Let's see how this will go.

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3 hours ago, Scott-S6 said:

If it's anything like the Viper it'll be released completely under cooked and then take years to gradually fix and complete (it'll soon be 6 years and we only just got a pilot body)

i understand you and agree with module to be as feature rich as possible and reliably working upon EA but i hate to be the one to say that "pilot body" is not a critical part for an aircraft to work, it is though part of the final package
you are right F-16 had rough start but i would not judge its progress / quality by adding pilot body at later stages, in my eyes they set their priorities rather well

regarding Eurofigher, Mig-29 or any other future model i would hope to see the aircraft flight model and systems be prioritized before such things as pilot body

do not get me wrong i do not want to undermine your comment, just to point out that priorities are what is important to set correctly and do not judge current or future modules by lack of some features that actually might not be so crutial in a module to work properly and thus can be added at later stages of development / EA

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14 hours ago, Matis said:

i understand you and agree with module to be as feature rich as possible and reliably working upon EA but i hate to be the one to say that "pilot body" is not a critical part for an aircraft to work, it is though part of the final package
you are right F-16 had rough start but i would not judge its progress / quality by adding pilot body at later stages, in my eyes they set their priorities rather well

regarding Eurofigher, Mig-29 or any other future model i would hope to see the aircraft flight model and systems be prioritized before such things as pilot body

do not get me wrong i do not want to undermine your comment, just to point out that priorities are what is important to set correctly and do not judge current or future modules by lack of some features that actually might not be so crutial in a module to work properly and thus can be added at later stages of development / EA

The years where it had a deeply flawed flight model were a much bigger problem. The pilot body was a flippant example of something required for a finished module and which is created by a team separate to the systems, weapons and flight model teams who do, obviously, have much more important things to work on. The models&textures team are generally finished with a module long before the other teams so priorities within the module didn't delay the viper pilot body.

It does seem that rushing quickly to release and then letting the module languish in EA for 6-8 years is becoming the new normal for ED.

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15 hours ago, TobiasA said:

For the sake of DCS, I hope they won't do it again. And I don't think so.

I'm not sure how it can't be released under cooked if they're getting it to EA as quickly as they've suggested.

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With how long the eurofighter has been in development for in comparison to the F35, I would say that it is highly unlikely that the f35 would come out next year. Maybe the eurofighter will come out at the end of this year/2026, we dont know for sure. Just have to be patient.

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Posted (edited)
On 7/15/2025 at 6:32 PM, Scott-S6 said:

Perhaps people are getting that "belief" from the F35 official FAQ?

 

When will it be available?

Development will start in earnest in 2025, with a release goal in 2026.

The stament has the shame of the F-15C module (I think they has copy/paste them). Honestly, I don't even dream of ED being able to "start" development of the F-35 in 2025. Rather, they'll probably start (if they can) in 2026 or 2027, so they can wait 2 or 3 years until they start (unless someone wants another "disaster" like the F-16 launch). There's still a lot to do on the F-16C/F/A-18C and other modules, so they can focus on a single module, let alone what will remain to be done on the Mig-29A/F-15C, etc, unless we get a surprise and they tell us there's a new team of people dedicated exclusively to it or a significant increase in ED's modern modules staff. It's simply a wait-and-see approach, and much less forget about "promises," since it's only a plan.

Regarding the release of a Eurofighter, as long as HB and ED don't confirm a launch... I'm putting it at the beginning or middle of next year at the earliest.

In itself, let's take into account his latest statement on Discord.

 

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Wanting and waiting for planned full-fidelty modules is frustrating. We might say, "We want it and we want now!" Virtual flyers want to experience the fun and instant gratification. 

In the meantime, we wait for Heatblur to do their work. When they say something is planned, they do considerable work, testing, and troubleshooting to ensure their product goals are reached. Waiting for the vetted finished product will give many hours of enjoyment 

When I read Heatblur's latest update, they said they are working on the Eurofighter. It also sounds like the A-6 would either be released after the Eurofighter or around the same time as the full-fidelty module. 

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb JOYFUL_CLOVR:

With how long the eurofighter has been in development for in comparison to the F35, I would say that it is highly unlikely that the f35 would come out next year. Maybe the eurofighter will come out at the end of this year/2026, we dont know for sure. Just have to be patient.

Well, if you compare the fidelity of the F4E at launch, and the fidelity of ED  modules that just now left EA...

You can be quick, cheap, or fast, and you can pick two of these but not all three.

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If we get the air-to-air only EF next year (and it's as polished as the F-14 was on release) I'll be happy, I figured it was further away than that.

@baltic_dragon I noticed your roadmap says 'Eurofighter Tranche 1' - has HB said anything more about which tranche we get, or is this just a 'worst case'?

 

 

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You probably meant to tag Silver Dragon instead of Baltic Dragon? 😉

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vor 4 Stunden schrieb Horns:

If we get the air-to-air only EF next year (and it's as polished as the F-14 was on release) I'll be happy, I figured it was further away than that.

@baltic_dragon I noticed your roadmap says 'Eurofighter Tranche 1' - has HB said anything more about which tranche we get, or is this just a 'worst case'?

Our EF will be a little bit of a mix between Tranche 1 and following tranches. Tranche 1 with what they can add, like the Meteor.

More information on the HB discord: https://discord.gg/heatblur-simulations

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1 hour ago, TobiasA said:

Our EF will be a little bit of a mix between Tranche 1 and following tranches. Tranche 1 with what they can add, like the Meteor.

More information on the HB discord: https://discord.gg/heatblur-simulations

Many thanks...

And Raven is spot on, that was supposed to be Silver Dragon, I guess I have an answer now so I'll just apologize to Baltic for the wtf moment

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I feel like this module has been in development much longer than any other HB module. I'm still lurking, I don't actively play DCS anymore (burnt out by fighting with the software more than actually playing the game) but I will reinstall when or if the Eurofighter drops. Sorry for the rant, I'm just sad that this is taking so long. 

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