see faq the loadouts for the F-35 2B and 3F

[NytHawk]

1 hour ago, TotenDead said:

Classified documentation might be one

3F isn’t much more infeasible than the 2B. Most of its upgrades are just increments of 2B features.

I have yet to find many resources for AIM-9X employment for F-35s…

However ED continues to claim it is planned. I can imagine that ED has put considerable thought behind the development of the F35 before announcement. I would be borderline shocked if ED is unable to get dedicated access to public F35 simulator demonstrators and unable to obtain such seemingly basic functionality.

1 hour ago, TotenDead said:

Is that realistic? 

What does hybrid mean?

Edited 21 hours ago by NytHawk

[TotenDead]

53 минуты назад, NytHawk сказал:

3F isn’t much more infeasible than the 2B. Most of its upgrades are just increments of 2B features.

Maybe. But we don't know if there's enough available documentation for that little difference 

53 минуты назад, NytHawk сказал:

I have yet to find many resources for AIM-9X employment for F-35s…

No info - no capability, that's easy

53 минуты назад, NytHawk сказал:

However ED continues to claim it is planned. I can imagine that ED has put considerable thought behind the development of the F35 before announcement.

Well, maybe. But let's not forget that even FAQ changed as the time passed

53 минуты назад, NytHawk сказал:

What does hybrid mean?

So, it isn't realistic

[NytHawk]

47 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

Maybe. But we don't know if there's enough available documentation for that little difference 

1. “We”? or you?

2. Except most of these incremental differences like FLCS restrictions, external weapons and SDB integration are all decently documented and integration is relatively self-explanatory (as is much of the F35s PVI)

 

47 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

No info - no capability, that's easy

We don’t know what information ED has access to.

Deka made a whole module largely based on official simulators on information only they had access to and it turned out fine.

47 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

So, it isn't realistic

All systems and other parameters implemented are accurate, just that the airframe isn’t any particular block.

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by NytHawk

[Silver_Dragon]

13 minutes ago, NytHawk said:

1. “We”? or you?

2. Except most of these incremental differences like FLCS restrictions, external weapons and SDB integration are all decently documented and integration is relatively self-explanatory (as is much of the F35s PVI)

We don’t know what information ED has access to.

Deka made a whole module largely based on official simulators on information only they had access to and it turned out fine.

All systems and other parameters implemented are accurate, just that the airframe isn’t any particular block.

We can discuss it all we want, but ultimately, the final decision on the F-35's capabilities rests with ED. And for now, the FAQ and the weapons options are what they are.

Quote

What weapons will be included? The complete weapons suite of a US F-35A in the 2015-time frame is planned. This includes the internal 25mm cannon, AIM-9X, AIM-120, GBU-31, GBU-32, and GBU-12. This list is subject to change during development. 

2015 the armament was very limited. The F-35A use SDBs on 2018...

F-35A
Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 8165 kg
Off Guns: GAU-22 25mm (3.4)

• Can carry 2 AIM-9X-1 (Feb 18) or AIM-9X-2 (2021?) externally in all loadouts (Signature VSmall)
• 4 AIM-120C-7 (internal)
• 6 AIM-120D (internal 2025?)
• Internal loadout with 2 AIM-120, and either:
  • 2 GBU-12 or 2 GBU-31
  • 8 GBU-39 or 4 GBU-49 (both Feb 18)
  • 8 GBU-53 (2023)
  • 2 B61-12 nuclear bombs (Feb 24)
  • 2 AGM-88G AARGM-ER (2025)
• External loadout with either:
  • 4 GBU-12 (Feb 18)
  • 4 GBU-49 (Nov 18)
  • 2 AGM-88G AARGM-ER (2025)
  • 8 AIM-120 or 4 AGM-158A/B or 4 GBU-31 or 4 GBU-38 or 4 GBU-54 (Block 4?)
  • 2 drop tanks (Block 4)

Remarks: In Svc: Aug 16
USAF CTOL variant. Stealthy in front quarter only (315°-045°), VSmall elsewhere. Only version to be nuclear capable. Can carry one internal and one external loadout. Can be fitted with RCS enhancer, increases Signature to Small for training and some combat missions. Initially not cleared to use 25mm cannon.

• 2 Aug 16: IOC, limited to maneuver Ratings 4.0/3.5.
• Feb 18: GAU-22 operational.
• May 18: FOC, can use full Maneuver Rating.
• 2021-24: Fitted with AIM-120D, GBU-38 and GBU-54.
• Jan 23: Block 4 to be introduced with Small Diameter Bomb II, UAS controls, auto-ground avoidance system, and drop tanks.
• 2025?: Fitted to carry 6 vice 4 AIM-120 internally (Sidekick launcher).

Furthermore, it's still too early to talk about a possible exit (after the F-15C); I'd almost bet to be a release on the end of 2026 or 2027... so things can change a lot.

Edited 19 hours ago by Silver_Dragon

[NytHawk]

34 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

We can discuss it all we want, but ultimately, the final decision on the F-35's capabilities rests with ED. And for now, the FAQ and the weapons options are what they are.

Of course.

Internal loadouts carrying 6 AMRAAMs require the Block 4s sidekick upgrade (including substantial modification to existing aircraft with a brand new bulkhead)

GBU-53s and AARGM-ERs have yet to enter service; another Block 4 upgrade. Don't think AARGMs have started release testing yet if i remember correctly.
 

34 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

I'd almost bet to be a release on the end of 2026 or 2027... so things can change a lot.

I prefer to just ignore the release date so I don't get impatient lol.

Edited 18 hours ago by NytHawk

[TotenDead]

2 часа назад, NytHawk сказал:

1. “We”? or you?

Well, If you know that there's actually enough info then it's really me. Do you though, or you simply decided to be rude just because I somehow hurt your feelings?

2 часа назад, NytHawk сказал:

We don’t know what information ED has access to.

 

I could quote you here but I won't

2 часа назад, NytHawk сказал:

 

Deka made a whole module largely based on official simulators on information only they had access to and it turned out fine.

Good for them

 

[ricnunes]

22 hours ago, TotenDead said:

We might get the 2015 -ish version with its IRL limitations

 

Then, there will be no gun as well because a 2015 -ish F-35 could NOT fire its gun.

And now that we are at it, there wouldn't also be GBU-32's as indicated in the FAQ and also no GBU-12 self laser guidance (yeah, the 2015 -ish F-35's couldn't laser guide their own GBU-12s and had to rely on external laser sources for that!).

Edited 13 hours ago by ricnunes