HUD only view - disable map?

[TheBiggerBass]

After purchasing the F-18 module just two days ago I am working my way through the training lessons and getting familiar with all commands and key binds. As I like to fly with HUD only display I wonder whether it is possible to disable the map display blocking the center of view. I am flying on an ultra wide screen with 32:9 ratio and the map display is blocking a good portion of the center view. How can I disable or at least shrink it?

Thanks.

[MAXsenna]

5 hours ago, TheBiggerBass said:

I wonder whether it is possible to disable the map display blocking the center of view.

You're talking about the kneeboard and not the F10 map, right? Just use the mouse and drag and resize it like an ordinary Windows app. 

[Tholozor]

I think he means like this: 

 

[MAXsenna]

I think he means like this: 
 

Ahh! Thanks!
Exporting to a second screen might be the best option if possible. That's what I do.

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[TheBiggerBass]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb MAXsenna:

You're talking about the kneeboard and not the F10 map, right? Just use the mouse and drag and resize it like an ordinary Windows app. 

No, it's not the kneeboard. That opens and closes with RShift+K in a seperate window and works fine. It is also not the F10 map. My HUD screen looks like this:

The windows left and right are fine, although it would als be nice to scale or move them. I would like to eliminate the map in center because it blocks my VFR flight. The graphic also shows why the center map is much more disturbing on a 32:9 screen than on a 16:9 or 21:9 screen. The center map is half of the screen height on my display.

I'm also not able to select the center window because there is just a yellow cross which does not select any window.

[MAXsenna]

@TheBiggerBass, yeah, I got the heads up from @Tholozor

You might look in the multi-monitor threads about how to do it for the A-10C's. Because it can be done by editing Lua files. And like a wrote above, you might want to look into exporting all the MFDs to a second screen if possible and funds. Check out Helios too, that'd what I use. You can basically have the whole cockpit on a second screen. 

Cheers!  

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 1 Minute schrieb MAXsenna:

@TheBiggerBass, yeah, I got the heads up from @Tholozor

You might look in the multi-monitor threads about how to do it for the A-10C's. Because it can be done by editing Lua files. And like a wrote above, you might want to look into exporting all the MFDs to a second screen if possible and funds. Check out Helios too, that'd what I use. You can basically have the whole cockpit on a second screen. 

Cheers!  

Ok. Unfortunately I'm way too unexperienced to understand and edit lua files without screwing them up. I've just purchased the F-18 modul during the lunar sales two days ago and just started simming and gaming two months ago when I bought a complete new system after my old laptop is completely outdated after 14 years of work. I would appreciate it if you could point me to a link to the referred thread.

Thanks for having patience with me.

[MAXsenna]

2 hours ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Ok. Unfortunately I'm way too unexperienced to understand and edit lua files without screwing them up. I've just purchased the F-18 modul during the lunar sales two days ago and just started simming and gaming two months ago when I bought a complete new system after my old laptop is completely outdated after 14 years of work. I would appreciate it if you could point me to a link to the referred thread.

Thanks for having patience with me.

I'll see if I can find them.

Do you have any headtracking? I highly recommend it. You will not really be successful in the Hornet's various procedures if you keep flying without instrument.

EDIT: Here you go. 

 

 

 

Edited February 1 by MAXsenna

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 10 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna:

I'll see if I can find them.

Do you have any headtracking? I highly recommend it. You will not really be successful in the Hornet's various procedures if you keep flying without instrument.

EDIT: Here you go. 

 

 

 

Regarding head tracking I did some tests with opentrack . It works but it took some time to get the display smoothed and stabilized. Unfortunately I get nausea looking on the constant turning and moving screen with my large 57" ultra wide screen. Not an option for me. I guess there was a reason for not becoming a fighter pilot in my real life ...

The Link is 14 years old and the file structure seem to have changed. At least the referred file MFCD_init.lua does not exist anymore in any directory. The 3 square screens in HUD only display seem to be copies of the 3 main displays on the dashboard. At least they show the same content. May there is a way to reduce the size of the center display?

[MAXsenna]

33 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Regarding head tracking I did some tests with opentrack . It works but it took some time to get the display smoothed and stabilized. Unfortunately I get nausea looking on the constant turning and moving screen with my large 57" ultra wide screen. 

Ah! We discussed this before, right?

Did you fly in the F1 view with the headtracker, no wonder you got sick if you did. You might be very happy with a second screen and Helios then. 

34 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said:

The Link is 14 years old and the file structure seem to have changed.

Didn't check date sorry. I just remember a user fixed it in the past 6-12 months for the A-10C. So, it's probably in one of those threads. 

38 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said:

The 3 square screens in HUD only display seem to be copies of the 3 main displays on the dashboard.

True. 

40 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said:

May there is a way to reduce the size of the center display?

Absolutely! I don't remember the syntax, while you do it in the monitor file. Helios can do this for you, even if you are not going to export instruments or MFDs to a second screen. You don't have an old screen laying around, or can borrow one? 

Have you actually tried to turn the MFCD off? 

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 9 Minuten schrieb MAXsenna:

Ah! We discussed this before, right?

Ah yes, you're right ! Should have recognized your avatar sooner.

 

vor 9 Minuten schrieb MAXsenna:

Have you actually tried to turn the MFCD off? 

No, I don't know how to do that. In the meantime I clicked on every available button or knob in the cockpit to see what is changing. No impact to HUD only dashboard displays unfortunately.

Sometimes it's also a bit tricky to identify the correct german entrys because the translation in DCS does not use the "normal" german idioms. It might be easier - at least for me - to use an english DCS version, but that requires me to change my complete PC system to english.

Anyway, don't spend too much time on my "problem". If HUD only does not work I'll learn to use normal cockpit display including dashboard

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Ah yes, you're right ! Should have recognized your avatar sooner.

Haha, yeah same.  

1 hour ago, TheBiggerBass said:

No, I don't know how to do that. In the meantime I clicked on every available button or knob in the cockpit to see what is changing. No impact to HUD only dashboard displays unfortunately.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Turn it off when you can see the cockpit instrument panels. You see. When I export MFDs, they only display on my second screen when they are turned on in the cockpit. 

1 hour ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Sometimes it's also a bit tricky to identify the correct german entrys because the translation in DCS does not use the "normal" german idioms.

Ah, I see. 

 

1 hour ago, TheBiggerBass said:

but that requires me to change my complete PC system to english.

Really? Can't you just install the English DCS version? Maybe there is some way to change it to English without re-installing? Never consider that before.  

I only run English version of everything. And if my users prefer another Windows/Office language I just push a language pack.

1 hour ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Anyway, don't spend too much time on my "problem". If HUD only does not work I'll learn to use normal cockpit display including dashboard

Oh, no problem at all. I just haven't done it myself. 

I think you'll find displaying the instruments valuable later.

[ex81]

On 2/1/2025 at 2:07 PM, TheBiggerBass said:

Sometimes it's also a bit tricky to identify the correct german entrys because the translation in DCS does not use the "normal" german idioms. It might be easier - at least for me - to use an english DCS version, but that requires me to change my complete PC system to english.

 

Hi, no need to change the system. I changed from german to english, because a lot of hinds and tips are in english and I had to translate in to german. If you do not know how to do the changing, simply contact dcs support and they will tell you what to do. It`s easy and the team is awsome .

[TheBiggerBass]

Ok, my issue is solved now. Inspired by this very helpful tutorial (and many try-and-errors) I rewrote a custom monitor and viewports setup lua file, which allows to relocate and resize all MFCDs anywhere on the screen(s), even to non-visible or overlapping areas. Maybe the next rookie could save some time with this info 

[Divadov]

En 25/2/2025 a las 13:24, TheBiggerBass dijo:

Ok, my issue is solved now. Inspired by this very helpful tutorial (and many try-and-errors) I rewrote a custom monitor and viewports setup lua file, which allows to relocate and resize all MFCDs anywhere on the screen(s), even to non-visible or overlapping areas. Maybe the next rookie could save some time with this info 

Hi TheBiggerBass,
Could you share the file and tell us what lines are you modified to make invisible all MFCD's in ALT+F1 view?
I have only one monitor

Thanks in advance

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb Divadov:

Hi TheBiggerBass,
Could you share the file and tell us what lines are you modified to make invisible all MFCD's in ALT+F1 view?
I have only one monitor

Thanks in advance

Find my actual monitor setup file attached.

It's intended for use with two monitors: primary display (57" 32:9 curved Samsung Odyssey neo G95) set to 7680x2160px and secondary display (32" 16:9 BenQ UW3270) set to 3840x2160px. The secondary display is virtually located right from the primary display (x=7680, y=0) which results in a total graphics area of 11520x2160px. All MFCDs are set to be displayed on the secondary display. As I only used absolute pixel coordinates and sizes DCS does not care whether the second monitor is active. In case the secondary monitor is off the MFCDs are simply not visible any more.

The reconfigure_for_unit() function (line 18ff.) specifies location and size of the MFCDs depending upon aircraft type. Default (the else part in line 71ff. of the if statement) are LEFT_MFCD and RIGHT_MFCD placed equal sized on the secondary display. In case of one MFCD (line 55ff.) the RIGHT_MFCD is placed in the center of the secondary display. In case of aircrafts with three MFCDs (line 23ff.), LEFT_MFCD and RIGHT_MFCD are placed lower left corner and lower right corner of secondary display. CENTER_MFCD is placed a bit smaller at the top side center with a bit of overlapping to LEFT_MFCD and RIGHT_MFCD.

In HUD only view (Alt+F1) all MFCDs are displayed on secondary display only now, whether it's active or not. That's what I wanted.

WW Special (8k).lua

Edited March 5 by TheBiggerBass

[TheBiggerBass]

Ok, now I am working on the F-15. There are Multi-Purpose Color Display (MPCD), Vertical Situation Display (VSD) and TEWS display. MPCD seems to be LEFT_MFCD but I need to know the identifier names for VSD and TEWS. The identifiers RIGHT_MFCD or CENTER_MFCD didn't capture them.

Can somebody help which MFCD export names access VSD and TEWS?

[Foka]

Maybe ask this in F-15E section?

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Ok, now I am working on the F-15. There are Multi-Purpose Color Display (MPCD), Vertical Situation Display (VSD) and TEWS display. MPCD seems to be LEFT_MFCD but I need to know the identifier names for VSD and TEWS. The identifiers RIGHT_MFCD or CENTER_MFCD didn't capture them.

Can somebody help which MFCD export names access VSD and TEWS?

You find the names in the init.lua files for the respective displays. If they don't have any you need to patch them, and that will break IC. 

Cheers! 

[BIGNEWY]

Split the F-15E question to the correct forum. 
 

thank you 

[TheBiggerBass]

Thanks. However I solved it for F-15; it's a F-4E related question now. I already asked my question there (not solved for F-4E yet)