markturner1960 Posted February 17 Posted February 17 As title, thinking of maybe upgrading and wondering what the current thinking is on the best combo of components ( CPU, memory, MB) Cheers... System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor.
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Mr_sukebe Posted February 17 Posted February 17 For the CPU, 9800x3d. Post that, some low latency RAM. If you're going with the latest 870 chipset, then it'll probably automatically come with PCIE5 GPU and NVME slots. I'm guessing that you'll replace this within 2-3 years, so need to overdo the RAM, 64GB. 1 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Pilotasso Posted February 17 Posted February 17 (edited) I dont use VR but from my experience upgarding CPU and GPU's over the last few years: you dont need the latest CPU to run this game maxed out. All you need is: A CPU with 6+ cores and 4Ghz+ RAM 64Gb 16GB+ of VRAM Have DCS installed on an SSD with the OS The bottleneck seems to be the GPU and the ammount of VRAM it has. I have a 5950X with a 4090, 64GB of RAM and I am hitting the limit on my 4K 240Hz monitor. 190 FPS on ground and 240+(because I caped it) in the air. I estimate that, if you have like an AMD 5600 CPU or and intel 12700K, with an AMD 7900+ (those had 20-24GB VRAM) or any NVIDIA GPU with 16Gb+ that is less than 4 years, then your golden. Edited February 17 by Pilotasso .
The_Nephilim Posted February 18 Posted February 18 11 hours ago, markturner1960 said: As title, thinking of maybe upgrading and wondering what the current thinking is on the best combo of components ( CPU, memory, MB) Cheers... well it depends on the resolution you run. in most all 1080P test the 9800x3d is ahead of all the others. in 1440P it narrows a bit but @4K it is reall close almost a margin of error. but I guess you can jump on the AMD Band wagon but not sure I beleieve the hype especially since I went with Intel and seen some 4K Benchs.. Intel Ultra 265K 5.5GHZ / Gigabyte Z890 Aorus Elite / MSI 4070Ti Ventus 12GB / SoundBlaster Z SoundCard / Corsair Vengance 64GB Ram / HP Reverb G2 / Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Games / Crucial 512GB M.2 Win 11 Pro 21H2 / ButtKicker Gamer / CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh V2 PC Case
Nightdare Posted February 18 Posted February 18 20 hours ago, Pilotasso said: I dont use VR but from my experience upgarding CPU and GPU's over the last few years: you dont need the latest CPU to run this game maxed out. All you need is: A CPU with 6+ cores and 4Ghz+ RAM 64Gb 16GB+ of VRAM Have DCS installed on an SSD with the OS On pancake? yes Beer goggles asks a lot more from the hardware 1 Intel I5 13600k / AsRock Z790 Steel Legend / MSI 4080s 16G Gaming X Slim / Kingston Fury DDR5 5600 64Gb / Adata 960 Max / HP Reverb G2 v2 Virpil MT50 Mongoost T50 Throttle, T50cm Base & Grip, VFX Grip, ACE Interceptor Rudder Pedals w. damper / WinWing Orion2 18, 18 UFC & HUD, PTO2, 2x MFD1 / Logitech Flight Panel / VKB SEM V / 2x DIY Button Box
virgo47 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 (edited) I've got a good old Ryzen 7 3700X and it is never utilized above 50% with DCS. Unlike my rusty RTX 3060. So it's also about pairing. I'd say that CPU is less critical than a GPU, although on some multiplayer servers perhaps it may change. And of course, DCS on SSD. Edited February 18 by virgo47 L-39, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F/A-18C, MiG-15, F-86F, AJS-37, C-101, FC2024 Yak-52, P-47, Spitfire, CE2 UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50 III, SA342 NTTR, PG, SY, Chnl, Norm2, Kola, DE Supercarrier, NS430, WWII, CA VKB STECS+Gladiator/Kosmosima+TPR DCS Unscripted YouTube "Favourite" bugs: 1) gates not growing regress (FIXED 2025-03 ), 2) L-39 target size cockpit animation regress (FIXED 2025-02), 3) Yak-52 toggles not toggling, 4) all Caucasus ATC bugs
BitMaster Posted February 18 Posted February 18 vor 2 Stunden schrieb virgo47: I've got a good old Ryzen 7 3700X and it is never utilized above 50% with DCS. Unlike my rusty RTX 3060. So it's also about pairing. I'd say that CPU is less critical than a GPU, although on some multiplayer servers perhaps it may change. And of course, DCS on SSD. The 50% usage you refer to are for ALL-CORES of your CPU, that is irrelevant ! If you had 64 cores and 128 threads your full blown DCS experience would maybe saturate the "CPU" to ~1%..maybe less. What you need to look for is INDIVIDUAL CORE LOAD, that is the meter you need to apply. 2 Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
virgo47 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, BitMaster said: The 50% usage you refer to are for ALL-CORES of your CPU, that is irrelevant ! If you had 64 cores and 128 threads your full blown DCS experience would maybe saturate the "CPU" to ~1%..maybe less. What you need to look for is INDIVIDUAL CORE LOAD, that is the meter you need to apply. I just wanted to put it into perspective... but now when I read the signature of the OP, then, granted, with 3090 the discussion is a bit different than in my case. Obviously, newer Zen is better, 3D cache is better, faster single core (turbo) is better. I yield. L-39, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F/A-18C, MiG-15, F-86F, AJS-37, C-101, FC2024 Yak-52, P-47, Spitfire, CE2 UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50 III, SA342 NTTR, PG, SY, Chnl, Norm2, Kola, DE Supercarrier, NS430, WWII, CA VKB STECS+Gladiator/Kosmosima+TPR DCS Unscripted YouTube "Favourite" bugs: 1) gates not growing regress (FIXED 2025-03 ), 2) L-39 target size cockpit animation regress (FIXED 2025-02), 3) Yak-52 toggles not toggling, 4) all Caucasus ATC bugs
markturner1960 Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 (edited) Thanks, I fly mainly in VR, my current PC runs my Quest pro extremely well, with little or no noticeable performance issues. I would be updgrading the card as well, likely a 5090 - basically, it would be a new PC and I will shuffle down the old PC's to my Helo sim set up and my daily use PC on which I might play some FPS games. I heard the latest intel chips run very hot and have been happy with my current AMD CPU set up....but not wedded to either. Its now been 2 generations of Nvidia card tech and 3 years since I got my current PC. Just trying to weigh up the possible benefits of getting a new PC. One would be that my existing main PC could be used to power my Helo sim rig to fly the Apache in VR, which I cant really do satisfactorily on the PC I am currently using for that. I can then use the old Helo PC as my daily and be able to play FPS games etc , which I cant on the small form factor NUC PC I use for that currently Edited February 19 by markturner1960 System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor.
Aapje Posted February 19 Posted February 19 The availability and pricing of the 5090 is horrible, so I'd just wait some months, especially given the rumor that AI sales are disappointing, so we may be at the low point now, with the rumor being that Nvidia is producing a lot of 50-series chips now, that will come on the market in a bit. You could first upgrade to a 9800X3D + AM6, which is now actually properly available. 1
SharpeXB Posted February 19 Posted February 19 13 minutes ago, Aapje said: The availability and pricing of the 5090 is horrible “Horrible” is not a strong enough word 1 i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
Aapje Posted February 19 Posted February 19 It's like the holocaust... OK, perhaps I went overboard in the other direction this time.
BitMaster Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Money aside, sure, a shiny AMD Zen5 9950X3D, 64GB of excellent RAM and 2 NVMe Gen5 drives, coupled with a 5090 and a beefy PSU will yield some more fps and smoothness. But it's all new tech and there are always teething issues of one or the other kind, but hey, you have multiple PC's and thus must have some insight on how this all rolls and dont seem to worry about the expense either...Go for it. I'd watercool it all and thus would go for a 5090 FE, highest chances of getting a good waterblock, but time will tell what's being made available in that regard. 1 1 Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Lange_666 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 For those with a bit of money in their pocket: null 1 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Koziolek Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) On 2/19/2025 at 9:11 PM, Aapje said: The availability and pricing of the 5090 is horrible, Oh, I do not see any problem with availability. Amazon.de. A bit off MSRP but just a bit And 5080 even better - still 6 left. null Edited February 21 by Koziolek 2
BitMaster Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Best of all, typical Nvidia again, the ROP-Gate. They knew about the issue but sold them to you with a smile. You gotta be a BIG A//hole to act like Nvidia does. Ask a premium while selling lesser products. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
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