DCS Campaign IS COMING!!! Dynamic Campaign what do you want to see in it?

[MAXsenna]

10 hours ago, OmasRachE said:

But sure, if its only a developing step, I will try it and give feedback to support the development. 

I believe it is. It doesn't really make sense otherwise, unless they want to release itbas a free version in the Caucasus for SP, and have it as a paid module per map like the NS430 and/or Multiplayer. I wouldn't blame them for cashing in on it if that is the case. I can't imagine all the work they've done on this actually. 

[Silver_Dragon]

Dinamic Campaign Updates:

• December 2023

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/5bf6ef59f8b97771ba0e0ac9904be8f7/

• July 2024 Update

• Wags February 2025 Q&A Dinamic Campaign

• Wags August 2025 Dynamic Campaign update (3:45)

Meanwhile, Wags talked about New AI ATC and Player ATC on the January 2025 ATC (21:20)

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Silver_Dragon

[OmasRachE]

vor 12 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna:

I believe it is. It doesn't really make sense otherwise, unless they want to release itbas a free version in the Caucasus for SP, and have it as a paid module per map like the NS430 and/or Multiplayer. I wouldn't blame them for cashing in on it if that is the case. I can't imagine all the work they've done on this actually. 

I´m fine with paying, if its worth it. I love that DCS is neither pay to win, nor a lootbox skin mess. Good money for good work.

[dsc106]

My concern after the Enigma video is that the dynamic campaign is going to be nowhere close to expectations. It has been in the works for half a decade. People like me have invested thousands into modules under the pretense that this is all going somewhere.

If the dynamic campaign does not launch with industry leading leading AI, full logistics support, support for all maps, SP + MP, support for all modules and eras, many robust updates and fixed to multiplayer, good performance, slick interface... I mean, what I just said is the basic 101 requirements. My fear is that this is "unrealistic" and people are going to be disappointed vs BMS, a free mod for a very old game.

It sounds like there is just not serious investment into the game side of this. "Development takes time" I am ok with, I understand this is a niche. But ED needs to be transparent here. The dynamic campaign has been in works for longer than most games, including games by small indie studios. I think an expectation that DCS is "close" to become a masterfully, fully fledged combat flight sim GAME exists and is reasonable.

But... recent releases have been comically underwhelming. Comical, if it weren't so frustrating. The Mission save feature, seriously? I understand this is an old engine and will be more complicated to implement, but people have been asking for saved games for what, close to a decade? And what do we get, a half baked save state feature that can barely handle any complexity or cockpit states that feels more like a hack? We have been waiting years, and I can't just save the game in a Reflected campaign at will, with ease, no fuss?

Or the Quick Action Generator, which can't even match the free briefing room?

None of this is confidence inspiring as to what we are getting with dynamic campaign. If the enigma video is to believed, we are going to end up with a half baked dynamic campaign that wouldn't live up to 2 years of dev time let alone 6+ years.

I agree that ED needs to hire a game manager and have a team that is solely dedicated to the development of DCS as a GAME, where the engineering team can operate independently and produce full fidelity modules for the ecosystem. The irony is the DCS side probably WOULD be more profitable if they actually did this, but there is a chicken-egg dynamic here. If the game side actually got the attention it deserved it would open up a lot more interest in module sales.

[MVS-Viper]

 

11 hours ago, OmasRachE said:

I´m fine with paying, if its worth it. I love that DCS is neither pay to win, nor a lootbox skin mess. Good money for good work.

I agree 100%. I don’t mind paying (btw I’m not buying any more theaters or modules until the dynamic campaign is released) for the multiplayer version.  I don’t fly single player so that would be a waste for me.  
 

Also, I do not understand why they want to release a single player version since you have a lot of content creators making some awesome campaigns for single players already . 
 

 

2 hours ago, dsc106 said:

My concern after the Enigma video is that the dynamic campaign is going to be nowhere close to expectations. It has been in the works for half a decade. People like me have invested thousands into modules under the pretense that this is all going somewhere.

If the dynamic campaign does not launch with industry leading leading AI, full logistics support, support for all maps, SP + MP, support for all modules and eras, many robust updates and fixed to multiplayer, good performance, slick interface... I mean, what I just said is the basic 101 requirements. My fear is that this is "unrealistic" and people are going to be disappointed vs BMS, a free mod for a very old game.

None of this is confidence inspiring as to what we are getting with dynamic campaign. If the enigma video is to believed, we are going to end up with a half baked dynamic campaign that wouldn't live up to 2 years of dev time let alone 6+ years.

I agree that ED needs to hire a game manager and have a team that is solely dedicated to the development of DCS as a GAME, where the engineering team can operate independently and produce full fidelity modules for the ecosystem. The irony is the DCS side probably WOULD be more profitable if they actually did this, but there is a chicken-egg dynamic here. If the game side actually got the attention it deserved it would open up a lot more interest in module sales.

Yeah I just watched that video.  It is an eye opener for any DCS customer.  You are spot on with your comments

Edited 36 minutes ago by MVS-Viper

[MAXsenna]

10 minutes ago, MVS-Viper said:

Also, I do not understand why they want to release a single player version since you have a lot of content creators making some awesome campaigns for single players already . 

 

For obvious reasons. SP is the larger player base. Probably been asking for DC longer than the MP base due to what that other sim "always" had. Easier to track initial bugs in SP before employing it for MP.

DLC campaigns = stories ≈ "endless" missions.

That said, moderators often say they don't have any news for us. While after the release of mentioned video, ED should at least be upfront with what the plans for where the DC is heading in the future, for encouragement or disappointment. 

@BIGNEWY @NineLine

Is Enigma correct? Will the DC only be for SP in the Caucasus? Or will it be available for other maps/multiplayer in the future?

Those questions should very simple to answer! 

Cheers and have a great weekend everyone!