Shimakaze514 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 When I enter the main game interface, select the Multiplayer tab, and let it refresh itself, DCS freezes the entire system several times. It seems that it always freezes for tens of seconds when a new server is refreshed and the UI is updated. When all servers are refreshed and the refresh arrow on the top stops spinning, it will freeze for several minutes. When it freezes, I can't move the mouse, can't switch windows, and the monitor screen is frozen. I first encountered this problem a few days ago and tried reinstalling DCS, reinstalling the graphics driver, doing a windows update, and reinstalling the motherboard and CPU firmware, but none of them improved it. I used Process Monitor to observe and analyze and saw the CPU usage during the frozen time is 435%
Shimakaze514 Posted April 14 Author Posted April 14 The timing of the freeze seems completely random, it could be triggered at the main menu, during the server fresh and after the server refresh is completed. The duration of the freeze is not fixed, from seconds to minutes. I can't do anything with DCS opened in the background, it will freeze my PC randomly. Even when I was typing here, my PC was frozen 4 times, each lasted about 2 minutes. Here is a video recording the situation: QQ视频20250414170409.mp4
Shimakaze514 Posted April 14 Author Posted April 14 When DCS is off, my PC never freezes. It is running smoothly with other games such as WarThunder, World of Warships, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, and Squad. All of those games are as or more CPU consuming as/than DCS, so I don't think it is a hardware issue of my PC. My PC spec (Lenovo Legion Y7000p 2024 Laptop): Operating System: Windows 11 (Build 22631.5189) CPU: Intel i7-14700HX GPU: Nvidia RTX 4070 Laptop RAM: 16GB Repaird DCS, still randomly freezes
silverdevil Posted April 14 Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, Shimakaze514 said: When DCS is off, my PC never freezes. It is running smoothly with other games such as WarThunder, World of Warships, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, and Squad. All of those games are as or more CPU consuming as/than DCS, so I don't think it is a hardware issue of my PC. My PC spec (Lenovo Legion Y7000p 2024 Laptop): Operating System: Windows 11 (Build 22631.5189) CPU: Intel i7-14700HX GPU: Nvidia RTX 4070 Laptop RAM: 16GB Repaird DCS, still randomly freezes hello. you should post your DCS.LOG from saved games. also, if true, 16 GB is likely your issue. it is low end, if not under minimum requirements. also check to see if you have exception in your AV software. AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
Pillowcat Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) Most probably: core parking issue, second: had run with admin rights, else: yet some variants exists Edited April 14 by Pillowcat 1
dutchili Posted April 14 Posted April 14 This occurs even with a high-end PC, especially in VR. Sounds like a classic programming issue where the graphical representation is linked to the actual work (getting server data). If the latter is delayed, so is the UI en 'user input'. The gameplay has the same issue (so it seems) where FPS and 'mission complexity' are tightly coupled. 1
Shimakaze514 Posted April 14 Author Posted April 14 21 minutes ago, Pillowcat said: Most probably: core parking issue, second: had run with admin rights, else: yet some variants exists Thanks for the info, it is kind of a relief to see I'm not alone in having this annoying freezing issue. I have installed Process Lasso and Park Control, but random freeze still occurs after I set the core affinity of DCS to 0-15 in Process Lasso and disable core parking in Park Control. I don't have DCS running in administrator mode, it is launched via the default shortcut created on the desktop at installation. However, I did find 2 CPU cores with a 100% usage rate when I'm running DCS, and I have now disabled them. Sadly, right after a few minutes, I encountered another freeze.
sleighzy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Shimakaze514 said: Thanks for the info, it is kind of a relief to see I'm not alone in having this annoying freezing issue. I have installed Process Lasso and Park Control, but random freeze still occurs after I set the core affinity of DCS to 0-15 in Process Lasso and disable core parking in Park Control. I don't have DCS running in administrator mode, it is launched via the default shortcut created on the desktop at installation. However, I did find 2 CPU cores with a 100% usage rate when I'm running DCS, and I have now disabled them. Sadly, right after a few minutes, I encountered another freeze. You need to attach a DCS log file for review as it may provide more insights as to the root cause. I also wouldn’t just start disabling CPU cores if you see them at 100% as you’re reducing the amount of processing power of your PC. The menu etc. is also not multithreaded so results will vary. If disabling half your CPU with Process Lasso didn’t solve your problem then I would revert that change for now. It may mask further underlying problems. Revisit it if needed. Provide a log first. Edited April 14 by sleighzy AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
Mr_sukebe Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Can I please suggest that you take a scan here: 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Wizard_03 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 17 hours ago, Shimakaze514 said: Thanks for the info, it is kind of a relief to see I'm not alone in having this annoying freezing issue. I have installed Process Lasso and Park Control, but random freeze still occurs after I set the core affinity of DCS to 0-15 in Process Lasso and disable core parking in Park Control. I don't have DCS running in administrator mode, it is launched via the default shortcut created on the desktop at installation. However, I did find 2 CPU cores with a 100% usage rate when I'm running DCS, and I have now disabled them. Sadly, right after a few minutes, I encountered another freeze. I'm experiencing full PC freeze when DCS starts. A solution that has been working for me is to, before opening the game, delete metashaders2 and FXO files in saved games folder, perform a short repair of DCS and finally perform a cleanup from the launcher, and then DCS runs great for me. I Its only a workaround though, the last major update (the one that introduced save functionality) clearly borked something, that or its some kind of driver issue or both, the new NVIDIA driver has lots of issues with multiple games. My latest log is attached which is from a session where the game froze shortly after starting, shows no errors. The log analyzer in DCS discord recommends rolling back GPU drivers. dcs.log 1 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
Shimakaze514 Posted April 18 Author Posted April 18 After the 2.9.15 update, the freezing problem is more serious. Before, there was only a chance of freezing on the main menu page, and if you continued to operate quickly, you could still enter the multiplayer server and play. Now there is a high probability of continuous freezing on the main menu page, and even if you click directly into the multiplayer page, it will freeze when refreshing the server. I just encountered a freeze on the multiplayer page, which lasted for dozens of minutes, and then the computer automatically restarted with a black screen. This is the first time that the computer cannot automatically recover from a freeze. I checked the event log, maybe this will help. It says DCS raised an error called "Top level window is idle". Thanks to this automatic reboot, it generated a minidump file, after I analyzed it using windbg, it showed that the driver UsbHub3.sys caused the computer to crash, I think this may be the reason. I will try to fix it now and post the fix method later ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE (9f) A driver has failed to complete a power IRP within a specific time. 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Key : Hypervisor.RootFlags.StartLogicalProcessor Value: 1 Key : Hypervisor.RootFlags.Value Value: 1015 Key : Hypervisor.RootFlags.ValueHex Value: 0x3f7 BUGCHECK_CODE: 9f BUGCHECK_P1: 3 BUGCHECK_P2: ffffc704420b8c40 BUGCHECK_P3: ffffd88d2ec9f738 BUGCHECK_P4: ffffc7044a081810 FILE_IN_CAB: 041825-11859-01.dmp DUMP_FILE_ATTRIBUTES: 0x1808 Kernel Generated Triage Dump FAULTING_THREAD: ffffc704356cc040 DRVPOWERSTATE_SUBCODE: 3 BLACKBOXBSD: 1 (!blackboxbsd) BLACKBOXNTFS: 1 (!blackboxntfs) BLACKBOXPNP: 1 (!blackboxpnp) BLACKBOXWINLOGON: 1 CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1 PROCESS_NAME: System STACK_TEXT: ffffd88d`2ea16640 fffff805`3544883d : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffa300`14d91180 ffffa300`14d91180 : nt!KiSwapContext+0x76 ffffd88d`2ea16780 fffff805`354b881f : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffc704`356cc040 : nt!KiProcessDeferredReadyList+0x29d ffffd88d`2ea16af0 fffff805`354b67ac : ffffa300`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffffa300`14d91180 fffff805`354ce347 : 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Shimakaze514 Posted April 18 Author Posted April 18 Just encountered another freeze and auto restart, third time opening DCS after the update and third time freeze auto restart now. Here's the log, but I think it is useless: dcs.log 2
sleighzy Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, Shimakaze514 said: Just encountered another freeze and auto restart, third time opening DCS after the update and third time freeze auto restart now. Here's the log, but I think it is useless: dcs.log 40.14 kB · 0 downloads This log shows a few interesting things: You only have 16Gbs of RAM....kind of. It shows 14043Mb which is a weird number. Might be worth looking into that to ensure no problems there, e.g. run RAM tests. Don't know what kind of performance you're getting in multiplayer. You have your preload radius set to 100000 which is quite high for your specs. Given you only have 8Gb VRAM on your GPU and 16Gb RAM (kind of) I'd drop that right down to 30000 You have a 58Gb page file set. That's larger than the general recommendations, e.g page file being roughly double (and a half) of physical RAM. Is this on your fastest SSD with at least 10% free space remaining? Disable TacView as well Enable fullscreen. Edited April 18 by sleighzy AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
BuLLeT.ZA Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I'm getting the same issue with intermittent freezing. DCS locks up my whole system for 30 seconds or so at a time while in the menu or editor - not during gameplay though thankfully. I'll try all the mentioned fixes above and keep watching this topic with great interest. Saitek X52 | 4770k@4.3GHz | MSI 1080GTX Armor OC | TrackIR 5
Pillowcat Posted April 18 Posted April 18 2 hours ago, sleighzy said: preload radius set to 100000 2 hours ago, sleighzy said: Disable TacView MAIN MENUs, guys, are you think it is preload of kilometers of 2D GUI and so cause freezing or what?! it is not 'performance' issue in the meaning of system being insufficient in drawing 2D picture..
sleighzy Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pillowcat said: MAIN MENUs, guys, are you think it is preload of kilometers of 2D GUI and so cause freezing or what?! it is not 'performance' issue in the meaning of system being insufficient in drawing 2D picture.. Correct, the main menu freeze is weird and cause is still unknown. However, if somebody drops a log here with additional stuff that should be addressed then I’ll call it out so they don’t have issues further down the road. 9 hours ago, Shimakaze514 said: Just encountered another freeze and auto restart, third time opening DCS after the update and third time freeze auto restart now. Here's the log, but I think it is useless: dcs.log 40.14 kB · 3 downloads Can you run the Windows DxDiag tool, save the report, and then attach that here also. also when you say “auto-restart” do you mean that your Windows reboots itself automatically? Edited April 18 by sleighzy 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
MAXsenna Posted April 18 Posted April 18 MAIN MENUs, guys, are you think it is preload of kilometers of 2D GUI and so cause freezing or what?! it is not 'performance' issue in the meaning of system being insufficient in drawing 2D picture..In the OP its stated it happens when DCS refreshes the server list. That means MP not main menu, and the thread should be moved. If OP has a different problem now, a new thread should be made.Others that have similar issues in the ME should also make their own threads in the relevant subforums.Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
sleighzy Posted April 18 Posted April 18 This log was also after the multiplayer servers listed. TacView recorder was also loaded at this point hence also mentioning it. @Shimakaze514 , this log shows that it took roughly a minute from launching DCS to getting the list of servers up. This does not seem unreasonable. The fact that your PC froze and then rebooted itself following this (if this is what is meant by autorestart) would potentially point at some deeper Windows issue. Hopefully the DxDiag report contains more info. 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
Dginn69 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Freezing here to after the update last night. I can post a log fie when I get home later. But my issue seems to be core parking.
BuLLeT.ZA Posted Sunday at 10:34 AM Posted Sunday at 10:34 AM On 4/18/2025 at 3:37 PM, MAXsenna said: In the OP its stated it happens when DCS refreshes the server list. That means MP not main menu, and the thread should be moved. If OP has a different problem now, a new thread should be made. Others that have similar issues in the ME should also make their own threads in the relevant subforums. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Not sure about the OP, but my freezes happen anywhere that isn't ingame. Main menu, server browser and editor all lock up my system. Saitek X52 | 4770k@4.3GHz | MSI 1080GTX Armor OC | TrackIR 5
MAXsenna Posted Sunday at 11:02 AM Posted Sunday at 11:02 AM Not sure about the OP, but my freezes happen anywhere that isn't ingame. Main menu, server browser and editor all lock up my system.Best way is to post your DCS.log then. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
MoleUK Posted Sunday at 08:01 PM Posted Sunday at 08:01 PM On 4/18/2025 at 4:41 AM, Shimakaze514 said: Just encountered another freeze and auto restart, third time opening DCS after the update and third time freeze auto restart now. Here's the log, but I think it is useless: dcs.log 40.14 kB · 6 downloads I am seeing the same freezes on server select screen at least, as well as some other freeze and CTD issues. Mine don't last entire minutes, but that may be due to the CPU recovering quicker.
Slippa Posted Sunday at 08:14 PM Posted Sunday at 08:14 PM Came here to see I'm not alone too. Since the update (incl Germany) DCS is crashing, freezing, CTD, it even Rebooted altogether. I've wiped the FXO and Metashaders folders at various times to no avail. MP servers even lightly populated are crippling. Anywhere near Berlin I'm in a flickshow of horrors. I need a PC but as usual DCS is all that gives it any trouble. I wouldn't mind but I wanna fly all the maps in all my modules all of the time . Hope an update helps but it's not looking good unless someone wants to build me a super-dooper-computer.
anlq Posted Monday at 11:41 AM Posted Monday at 11:41 AM I have the same problem, but only in 2D so far. For VR it's ok.
MAXsenna Posted Monday at 07:20 PM Posted Monday at 07:20 PM Post your DCS.log file guys! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1
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