Precision Strike mod needed for legacy Russian planes

[apolloace]

Since we have a lot of legacy Russian planes in DCS now (Mig29A incoming), ED can develop some kind of Precision Strike kit as official mod to enhance their secondary strike capability in the form of add-ons. 

Otherwise these planes are way behind the curve when compared to western counterparts. 

For example : We can have some kind of generic laser targeting pod, with legacy Russian laser giuded bombs as a limited capability. 

Hyper-realistic players can ignore the mod, but for people like us part-timers it will be a great add on.

[Ramius007]

Just now, apolloace said:

Since we have a lot of legacy Russian planes in DCS now (Mig29A incoming), ED can develop some kind of Precision Strike kit as official mod to enhance their secondary strike capability in the form of add-ons. 

Otherwise these planes are way behind the curve when compared to western counterparts. 

For example : We can have some kind of generic laser targeting pod, with legacy Russian laser giuded bombs as a limited capability. 

Hyper-realistic players can ignore the mod, but for people like us part-timers it will be a great add on.

I would preffet if ED rather include "factory" variants of our F-teens, like F-16C blk50 without CCIP upgrade and original 90's Hornet with Link4, as bonus giving us ability to exchange datalink info with Tomcats. Removable via editor JHMCS and GPS is a must in both ofc... 

[bies]

1) Making some completely unrealistic fictional MODs for proper and realistically modeled 1980s Soviet aircrafts would be waste of time, money and resources.

2) It would be better to include more proper late Cold War NATO aircrats, like our current F-14A/B, Mirage F.1, F-4E, Gazelle L and incoming Tornado IDS, A7E, A6E, Bo-105 PAH-1 etc.

E.g. F-15C MSIP II from 1980s/Desert Storm or F-16A or C Bock 30 or Apache A would be nice in the future.

3) DCS will never be artificially balanced; 1944 P-51D won't stand real chance against 1964 MiG-21PF. 1955 MiG-19P won stand a chance against 1975 F-15A Eagle. 1983 MiG-29 9.12 won't stand a chance against 2003 F/A-18C. And it's fine, it's as it should be. If they would - it would actually point there is something fundamentally wrong with the whole simulation.

 

PS. When electronic warfare will be modeled to the bigger extend in DCS, such 20 years older aircrafts like 1980s F-14A/B or MiG-29 9.12 will be even way more helpless against mid-2000s variants of F-16C or F/A-18C.

Edited May 26 by bies

[apolloace]

I do not know why this is such a problem. We already have FC3 type modules of gamers in DCS, which is semi-realistic.

If you want it to be a simulation you have one, if you want it to be a game you also got options.

So why not an official mod for legacy Russian aircrafts for precise ground strikes?

[draconus]

On 5/23/2025 at 9:07 PM, apolloace said:

I do not know why this is such a problem. We already have FC3 type modules of gamers in DCS, which is semi-realistic.

Doesn't mean it can be fictional. ED removed many past features of DCS or their FC modules to make them more realistic, not less. It doesn't look like they want to add more FC birds either, apart from modifying already made FF modules like they did for FC 2024.

On 5/23/2025 at 9:07 PM, apolloace said:

So why not an official mod for legacy Russian aircrafts for precise ground strikes?

If it's a mod - it's not official by definition - it's game modification. Let it stay out of the game for good reasons.

I'd wholeheartedly support a wish for full fidelity modules like Su-24 or MiG-27 though

[Northstar98]

Personally, I think the better solution would be peer counterpart and contemporary aircraft, to Soviet aircraft that can actually be developed. So 80s F-15A/C, F-16A Block 10/15 or C Block 25/30, and F/A-18A.

The REDFOR aircraft still wouldn't have precision strike capability (only dedicated aircraft like the Su-25 have that). In that case I would absolutely support a full-fidelity MiG-27 or Su-25 or even a Su-17/22M3/M4.

[upyr1]

On 5/22/2025 at 11:20 AM, apolloace said:

Since we have a lot of legacy Russian planes in DCS now (Mig29A incoming), ED can develop some kind of Precision Strike kit as official mod to enhance their secondary strike capability in the form of add-ons. 

Official mod is a contraditon in terms, Now let's go to the idea itself.

On 5/22/2025 at 11:20 AM, apolloace said:

Otherwise these planes are way behind the curve when compared to western counterparts. 

For example : We can have some kind of generic laser targeting pod, with legacy Russian laser giuded bombs as a limited capability. 

Hyper-realistic players can ignore the mod, but for people like us part-timers it will be a great add on.

The solutions I think ED might be able to provide would be to add more advanced MiGs and Sus to the list of AI assets. Next I'd love to see more flyable Soviet strike planes. If you want a mod the best answer is to check out project flanker for from there.

4 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

Personally, I think the better solution would be peer counterpart and contemporary aircraft, to Soviet aircraft that can actually be developed. So 80s F-15A/C, F-16A Block 10/15 or C Block 25/30, and F/A-18A.

The REDFOR aircraft still wouldn't have precision strike capability (only dedicated aircraft like the Su-25 have that). In that case I would absolutely support a full-fidelity MiG-27 or Su-25 or even a Su-17/22M3/M4.

More cold war era planes would be the option