Hotas Grip

[WinOrLose]

Is there a Hotas grip that mimics the Mig 29 that anyone would recommend?

 

Thanks

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Virpil grips are probably closest to Russian /Soviet aircraft, though they are meant to be a representation and not a 1-to-1 copy.

The T-50CM2 and the new FLNKR grip are both nice products.

Edited June 18 by Raven (Elysian Angel)

[AhSoul]

VKB MCG is Russian themed

https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/modern-combat-grip-ultimate-edition/

they do a plastic non-ultimate version as well

Edited June 18 by AhSoul

[EasternEagle]

14 hours ago, AhSoul said:

VKB MCG is Russian themed

https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/modern-combat-grip-ultimate-edition/

they do a plastic non-ultimate version as well

The VKB MCG is actually a copy of the Su-35 stick so it's the most Russian. 

As can be seen here 

 

[kotor633]

Hi,

I received the FLKR Grip from Virpil a few days ago. If you want to buy it, keep in mind that it's not for small/petite hands. It's considerably more substantial than the Warthog Grip.

[AhSoul]

9 hours ago, EasternEagle said:

The VKB MCG is actually a copy of the Su-35 stick so it's the most Russian. 

As can be seen here 

 

Cool - wasn't sure how closely it had been modelled to a real one.

I love mine. Being able to change some of the buttons/hats/sticks around is great to make it how you want it too.

[Lord_Pyro]

As much as i understand to desire a true to real replica think about how you want to map as many buttons to your hotas as possible. Reallife planes tend to important switches somewhere inside the cockpit instead of the hotas. The fulcrum actually has very little hotas capabilities. (And the hornet as well, that one relies heavily on the mfd's)

 

So in order to fly those planes efficiently it's a smart thing to bind knobs for radarmanipulation, or mfd osb's to your hotas as well. And therefore want as many buttons as possible. Especially when flying in vr...

[AhSoul]

On 6/19/2025 at 12:47 PM, Lord_Pyro said:

As much as i understand to desire a true to real replica think about how you want to map as many buttons to your hotas as possible. Reallife planes tend to important switches somewhere inside the cockpit instead of the hotas. The fulcrum actually has very little hotas capabilities. (And the hornet as well, that one relies heavily on the mfd's)

 

So in order to fly those planes efficiently it's a smart thing to bind knobs for radarmanipulation, or mfd osb's to your hotas as well. And therefore want as many buttons as possible. Especially when flying in vr...

Agreed - my MCG has 5 4-way+push hats plus other buttons. I'm sure the real aircraft don't have that but I use all of them a lot of the time

[draconus]

On 6/19/2025 at 1:47 PM, Lord_Pyro said:

So in order to fly those planes efficiently it's a smart thing to bind knobs for radarmanipulation, or mfd osb's to your hotas as well. And therefore want as many buttons as possible. Especially when flying in vr...

There are also some egg heads like me who value simulation more than game play comfort so if something is not on the RL HOTAS it's not bound to my HOTAS either. It's fine if it lands on the base buttons though as you still have to take one hand away from the grip. Everything else is mouse and keys.

[R_0xD]

3 минуты назад, draconus сказал:

Il y a aussi des esprits libres comme moi qui privilégient la simulation au confort de jeu. Ainsi, si quelque chose ne se trouve pas sur le HOTAS réel, il n'est pas non plus lié à mon HOTAS. Ce n'est pas grave si la commande atterrit sur les boutons de base, car il faut quand même retirer une main de la poignée. Pour le reste, c'est la souris et les touches.

I do the same thing, I am also an egg head

[Lord_Pyro]

22 hours ago, draconus said:

There are also some egg heads like me who value simulation more than game play comfort so if something is not on the RL HOTAS it's not bound to my HOTAS either. It's fine if it lands on the base buttons though as you still have to take one hand away from the grip. Everything else is mouse and keys.

Mouse on the ground ok, in the air entirely not. Keys are also not a thing due to vr.

Unless its something like rearm/refuel which i have on backspace. Thats easy to find blindly

[draconus]

42 minutes ago, Lord_Pyro said:

Mouse on the ground ok, in the air entirely not. Keys are also not a thing due to vr.

Unless its something like rearm/refuel which i have on backspace. Thats easy to find blindly

I find mouse ok for most of the flight time. Of course I'm not clicking around during dogfight.

Many keys are easy to find because of the keyboard layout and keys' shapes.

[R_0xD]

Winwing will do a mig29 grip!

[edup71]

6 hours ago, R_0xD said:

Winwing will do a mig29 grip!

https://fselite.net/content/winwing-debuts-new-airbus-and-mig-29-products/

It looks fantastic!!

I just bought the F-16 grip...why they are doing this to me!!!!?? lol

Edited June 27 by edup71

[WinOrLose]

On 6/26/2025 at 9:13 AM, draconus said:

There are also some egg heads like me who value simulation more than game play comfort so if something is not on the RL HOTAS it's not bound to my HOTAS either. It's fine if it lands on the base buttons though as you still have to take one hand away from the grip. Everything else is mouse and keys.

I can see both arguments but in VR a few extra critical bindings make a big difference. 

[AhSoul]

It's not like we're all sat in full physical pits here

A few extra buttons that a real pilot would need often and be easily able to find by feel seem fine to stick on the HOTAS (to me).

There's no right or wrong here.

Edited July 3 by AhSoul

[Dragon1-1]

Between my Orion 2 and the PTO, I'm able to bind every non-HOTAS control I need to regularly use in flight, so there's that. On most jets there are only so many switches that you need.

[Pavlin_33]

On 7/3/2025 at 1:42 PM, AhSoul said:

It's not like we're all sat in full physical pits here

A few extra buttons that a real pilot would need often and be easily able to find by feel seem fine to stick on the HOTAS (to me).

There's no right or wrong here.

I sat in a real MiG-29 cockpit and the feeling is nothing like DCS.

The real panel is so close to your body, that it felt like I was in an alien space-ship. Night and day difference.

[AhSoul]

34 minutes ago, Pavlin_33 said:

I sat in a real MiG-29 cockpit and the feeling is nothing like DCS.

The real panel is so close to your body, that it felt like I was in an alien space-ship. Night and day difference.

Very cool. I'm pretty jealous!!! 

[draconus]

43 minutes ago, Pavlin_33 said:

I sat in a real MiG-29 cockpit and the feeling is nothing like DCS.

Try VR.