Suggestion: Su-25A Full Fidelity after the MiG-29A FF?

[R_0xD]

Hello everyone,

With the upcoming release of the MiG-29A in full fidelity, many of us are curious to see how well it performs commercially. If it turns out to be successful, I would like to propose an idea to Eagle Dynamics: developing a Su-25A in full fidelity.

Why the Su-25A?

• Reusing assets: ED is already working on a remake of the Su-25 for the Flaming Cliffs series. That means the 3D models and textures will already be brought up to modern standards. For a full fidelity version, the focus would mainly be on programming and systems, reducing the need for extensive art development.

• Gameplay diversity: On the RedFor/USSR side, there is a clear lack of full fidelity strike aircraft. The Su-25A would bring much-needed variety and serve as a true counterpart to the A-10C for air-to-ground operations, while keeping its Soviet identity.

• Historical value and immersion: The Su-25 is an iconic aircraft, still in use by multiple countries today. A full fidelity version would greatly enrich campaigns and scenarios on the eastern side.

In short: if the MiG-29A FF sells well, the Su-25A FF could be a logical next step for ED—one that provides a lot of value to players while minimizing redundant development work.

What do you think?

[Silver_Dragon]

Has claimed by ED as others, but actualy has no confirmed, yet. Of course as Wags has talked, if resources, time, dev team and available info. I think that sooner or later all FC aircraft (A-10A/F-15C/Mig-29A/G/S/Su-25A/Su-27S/Su-33) will come to DCS World as full fidelity modules sooner or later.

[R_0xD]

Yes but I think it is something good to make for 2027 because the art is already there and not outdated, so it should be good to avoid bad ressources management to make before the art of the su 25 are outdated 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

No such thing as Su-25”A”, it’s just Su-25.

And we’re getting a new one this year, albeit FC-level for now, as announced a few months ago.

1 hour ago, R_0xD said:

What do you think?

That this belongs in the core wish list subforum, along with the dozens of other threads about this exact same request.

Edited August 30 by Raven (Elysian Angel)

[YoYo]

The next one will be the F-15C, but I completely agree, I'm looking forward to the Su-25. It might be the SM3 .

[R_0xD]

13 часов назад, Raven (Elysian Angel) сказал:

 

And we’re getting a new one this year, albeit FC-level for now, as announced a few months ago.

 

I know, that's why I am saying to reuse the assets of the future FC SU-25 remake, the only remaining part will be the coding part and they could sell it for 60 or 70$ while using the "free" 3d model and textures. It would save ressources and the free su 25 will not be a total lost of money for ED

[Bigity]

I could get behind a FF type redfor ground attack fixed wing.

[TotenDead]

The Su-25 won't bring anything New in terms of a2g capabilities. The MiG-27M or K would. As well as Su-17M4

[DogsInTrousers]

Hear me out, I have a sneaking suspicion a FF SU-25 might be on the cards. They announced and previewed the updated model and textures quite some time ago, January if I remember correctly. I'm clutching at straws here but surely it doesn't take this long to release and inject an updated model and textures? 

My theory is that they are going to test the waters with the MIG-29 sales and make a decision on whether it would be worth it or not. To me, it just seems odd they cherry picked the SU-25 out of quite an extensive list of FC aircraft to update.

Mind, the current one has the awful cockpit frame clipping going on, maybe half the reason for the clean slate. Who knows. 

Time will tell, thoug, a FF SU-25 would be an instant buy for me.

[draconus]

23 hours ago, DogsInTrousers said:

My theory is that they are going to test the waters with the MIG-29 sales and make a decision on whether it would be worth it or not.

It's not theory. They were very open about this that they'll certainly look for more FF redfor jets if the sales are good.

[Silver_Dragon]

On 9/24/2025 at 10:34 AM, DogsInTrousers said:

My theory is that they are going to test the waters with the MIG-29 sales and make a decision on whether it would be worth it or not. To me, it just seems odd they cherry picked the SU-25 out of quite an extensive list of FC aircraft to update.

Remember ED has making a F-15C FF

[DogsInTrousers]

58 minutes ago, draconus said:

It's not theory. They were very open about this that they'll certainly look for more FF redfor jets if the sales are good.

Thank you, for your contribution.

[R_0xD]

10 часов назад, draconus сказал:

It's not theory. They were very open about this that they'll certainly look for more FF redfor jets if the sales are good.

I hope we will get more of them "soon"

[Dr_Arrow]

I think that FF Su-25 is really a low hanging juicy fruit for ED. With updated 3D model and cockpit there is not that much that needs to be implemented/researched to make it full fidelity. Most of the instrumentation including RWR is done for Mi-24/Mig-29A/L-39/KA-50, weapon system is already modeled correctly. We have all navigation systems already in the game like RSBN/ARK. Flight model is basically done. Gunsight is nearly the same as in Mi-24. All the weapons are already modeled well, so I think it could be pulled off with not that much effort and I sincerely hope that also ED is thinking this way. 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

1 minute ago, Dr_Arrow said:

Flight model is basically done

It would be, if the flight model was up to PFM standards - but it isn’t: it’s “just” AFM so would require quite a bit of work.

And even then both MiG-29 and F-15C already had PFM and still require (-d) further refining.

[Dr_Arrow]

14 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

It would be, if the flight model was up to PFM standards - but it isn’t: it’s “just” AFM so would require quite a bit of work.

And even then both MiG-29 and F-15C already had PFM and still require (-d) further refining.

I think they are going to update the flight model to PFM standards for the updated frog. But as far as I know and have a lot of experience with current Su-25, its basic flight characteristics are quite well done and it can be flown by the book. I suspect mainly ground handling, suspension modeling and some areas around the edge of flight envelope would need some work. 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

2 minutes ago, Dr_Arrow said:

I think they are going to update the flight model to PFM standards for the updated frog

No they aren’t:

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The new Su-25 will share the same exact flight dynamics as its predecessor

See here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/2025-01-31/