Can we have an option to get rid of the visor?

PD919 · 2025-10-31T00:02:37Z

I don't think it works well for VR.

d0ppler · 2025-10-31T00:12:38Z

At least for the Viper, you can toggle it on/off. I bet you can for the hornet as well

Lange_666 · 2025-10-31T06:50:05Z

6 hours ago, d0ppler said:

At least for the Viper, you can toggle it on/off. I bet you can for the hornet as well

You can't turn it off, not for the F-16 either. You can only move it up down.
In 2D you get a clear view with either the visor up or down, makes it look like you can turn it on/off.
In VR it's different. Topic poster is talking about the VR implementation where, unlike in 2D, you can see the edges of the visor, the nose gap and the fixation on top of the helmet.
Depending on how the different headsets visualize this, it can be distracting.

niru27 · 2025-10-31T09:08:56Z

I too find it horrible in VR: the nose gap is so annoying and you now lose a big chunk of pixels at the top of your FOV

ED: please give us a Special Option to turn it off altogether. If somebody likes it the way it is, let them use it, but please don't force this on others

hawks1234 · 2025-10-31T09:21:38Z

agreed. would be nice to have an option. nose gap is indeed distracting in VR.

miguelaco · 2025-10-31T09:47:12Z

I don't think ED is going to get rid of the visor completely since it's not only aesthetics. I mean, you can only use the HMD when visor is down, so they may change the way it's rendered though, personally, I don't hink they're going to change this in the near future.

I'm using a Pimax Crystal OG and got used to it in a few missions as my attention focused on operating the sensors and systems of the aircraft. My advice is to give it a chance for a little longer.

Edited yesterday at 09:52 AM by miguelaco

Lange_666 · 2025-10-31T11:01:09Z

1 hour ago, niru27 said:

and you now lose a big chunk of pixels at the top of your FOV

It's a lot closer to reality now in VR instead of the 2D version where it's more on/off.
A lot of people want their sim to be as close to reality as it can get until they are annoyed by something and then all of a sudden it's not so needed any more.

1 hour ago, miguelaco said:

I don't think ED is going to get rid of the visor completely since it's not only aesthetics. I mean, you can only use the HMD when visor is down, so they may change the way it's rendered though, personally, I don't hink they're going to change this in the near future.

This ^^^^

Edited yesterday at 11:02 AM by Lange_666

fagulha · 2025-10-31T11:14:37Z

7 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

It's a lot closer to reality now in VR instead of the 2D version where it's more on/off.
A lot of people want their sim to be as close to reality as it can get until they are annoyed by something and then all of a sudden it's not so needed any more.

This ^^^^

In VR in some headsets it´s unconfortable and not realistic, the nose gap border make your eyes focused on it. And it also affects performance in VR in about -2 ms of Frame Time.

Might be more realistic but sometimes "realism" won´t carry over to the sim the way it should.

We just want a option to turn it off, like the option to disable mirrors or disable the pilot body in 3D. I was waiting years for this but the current implementation doesn´t work well for some VR users, me included.

It´s not a question of "not so needed anymore" it´s a matter of eyes health and confort.

d0ppler · 2025-10-31T11:44:06Z

4 hours ago, Lange_666 said:

You can't turn it off, not for the F-16 either. You can only move it up down.
In 2D you get a clear view with either the visor up or down, makes it look like you can turn it on/off.
In VR it's different. Topic poster is talking about the VR implementation where, unlike in 2D, you can see the edges of the visor, the nose gap and the fixation on top of the helmet.
Depending on how the different headsets visualize this, it can be distracting.

Ah! I haven't flown in VR for a while, and didn't think of that. Let's hope they will improve the VR implementation within some reasonable time...

Raven (Elysian Angel) · 2025-10-31T11:51:07Z

1 minute ago, d0ppler said:

Ah! I haven't flown in VR for a while, and didn't think of that. Let's hope they will improve the VR implementation within some reasonable time...

It depends on which headset you use. On my Varjo Aero it renders perfectly, but it's a headset with a rather large physical "nose gap" that some people find annoying. So the problem is the rather large physical differences between different headsets, making a "one size fits all" solution for visors challenging.
This will affect any module that uses a JHMCS (the upcoming F-15C as well for example), as you need the visor for the symbology. When flying MiG-29 users who don't like the visor can simply flip it up (or rather, not flip it down as it's up by default) and they don't lose anything.

pastranario3 · 2025-10-31T12:55:47Z

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/380838-fa-18c-visor-glitch-vr/#findComment-5712562

Draken35 · 2025-10-31T12:56:26Z

1 hour ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

It depends on which headset you use. On my Varjo Aero it renders perfectly, but it's a headset with a rather large physical "nose gap" that some people find annoying. So the problem is the rather large physical differences between different headsets, making a "one size fits all" solution for visors challenging.
This will affect any module that uses a JHMCS (the upcoming F-15C as well for example), as you need the visor for the symbology. When flying MiG-29 users who don't like the visor can simply flip it up (or rather, not flip it down as it's up by default) and they don't lose anything.

Absolutely correct! I use a Quest 3 and have no issue with the visor but the where the center of any JHMCS is too high for me. With the amount of possible different combinations of headsets, single and multiple monitors and particular user settings and resolutions out there, a "one size" kind of approach will never "fit all".

Of course, that same combinations of hardware and software setting make the generalization of comments like "it doesn't work well for VR" (just an example, since I fly only in VR) absurd. What doesn't work well from one user might be perfect for others. Options about configuring these features is what we all need.

It is definitely a challenge for the dev team.

Edited yesterday at 12:58 PM by Draken35

niru27 · 2025-10-31T18:05:20Z

6 hours ago, Lange_666 said:

It's a lot closer to reality now in VR instead of the 2D version where it's more on/off.
A lot of people want their sim to be as close to reality as it can get until they are annoyed by something and then all of a sudden it's not so needed any more.

It can be as real as you want it: if YOU want it, enable the option. For others with headsets where the gap is glaringly visible, give them the option to fill in that gap, and remove the top "mask".

Just like how there's an option for:

Disabling super carrier deck crew
Enabling HMD rendering for both eyes
Using a non FFB device with non-FCS jets
Setting custom curves on axes

I could go on, but you get the point. Gameplay/hardware issues should supercede "reality". Nobody is after your slice of the pie. Some don't even like pie.

5 hours ago, Draken35 said:

Absolutely correct! I use a Quest 3 and have no issue with the visor...

I'm not too knowledgeable with headsets, but it seems that this issue depends on binocular overlap: if it's too low, you won't even see that nose gap

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