XTF Radeon HD 5870

[Mr Pink]

hi all,

 

just ordered this card from overclockers uk over the gtx 295 ftw took a lot of deliberating to come to this final decision but i got a glimpse of a vid. DX 10 vs DX 11, and i cant justify spending the money on 295 and have it not x11 compatible!!!

 

anyhow just wondering if anybody here has used the 5870 yet with black shark, just wondering about FPS and the like.

 

any info at all

 

cheers

[Kuky]

Framerate must be terrible ;)

 

Serisouly though, framerate will depend on your CPU as that video card is more then you need for this sim

[EtherealN]

Mr Pink, unless you are using extreme Antialias and Anisotropic Filtering the graphics card will not have a big impact on framerate in DCS. It's your CPU that governs this in DCS, since the simulator has a much bigger job to do in performing the simulating of the aircrafts, weapons and so on that it has displaying graphics.

[Made.In.China.00]

Hey, here's a great reason to justify your purchase: Eyefinity!

5870 can run up to 4 monitors! And it can do something at driver level so the 4 (i'd recommend 3) monitors to be recognized as one large monitor! Kind of like a intergerated triple head 2 go!

If you get the chance, PLEASE test this feature!

[Mr Pink]

ah yes true indeed, current build is just an e8400 and an ati hd 2400

 

going for a i7 920 @ 4ghz with the xfx 5870

 

hopefully this game will run sweet with that combo

[EtherealN]

Yeah, overclock that 920 and it'll be a monster. 4GHz should be pretty easy even on air and that combo will definitely kick donkey.

 

Made.In.China makes a good point about justification for the 5870, as well, if you have enough screens available or might be getting them in the future. :)

[sinelnic]

Hey, here's a great reason to justify your purchase: Eyefinity!

5870 can run up to 4 monitors! And it can do something at driver level so the 4 (i'd recommend 3) monitors to be recognized as one large monitor! Kind of like a intergerated triple head 2 go!

If you get the chance, PLEASE test this feature!

 

The current 5870 can only run 3 monitors, it has 4 ports but two of them are mutually exclusive.

 

For more than 3 you have to wait for the Eyefinity6 edition that will come with 6 displayports around christmas.

[emenance]

The 5770 does just about everything and pcper says its only $160.00 http://pcper.com/article.php?aid=795

 

INFO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125301&Tpk=GIGABYTE%20GV-R577D5-1GD-B%20HD%205770

 

The 5870 seems like a waste of money. One of the reasons im considering the 5770 is because the memory bandwidth has increased about 16gb per sec over the old 3850 card that was 60gbps mbandwidth. This is good if you are using a HDTV for a monitor. If not then I would be better off with a 8800gts or something and put money in CPU or Raid 0. Im already there personally. But the 5870 will do around 150gb memory bandwidth. That spec is too high for me to quantify right now...

Edited November 3, 2009 by emenance

[Ramstein]

ah yes true indeed, current build is just an e8400 and an ati hd 2400

 

going for a i7 920 @ 4ghz with the xfx 5870

 

hopefully this game will run sweet with that combo

 

that sounds tasty! :thumbup:

[Mr Pink]

PC complete!!!

(Nearly)

 

i7 920 @ 4ghz

x58 rampage 2 extreme

6gb ddr3 corsair xms3

x fi sound card

pioneer blue ray/dvd/cd combo

xfx 5870

western digital velociraptor 300 gb X2 in RAID0

corsair 750tx (x something anyway)

windows 7 home 64 bit

 

think thats it!!!

 

and logitech g9 mouse,

 

soon be getting the g19 keyboard

 

and have the x 52 pro

[Schnarre Aggro]

ah yes true indeed, current build is just an e8400 and an ati hd 2400

 

going for a i7 920 @ 4ghz with the xfx 5870

 

hopefully this game will run sweet with that combo

 

add a SSD and every game runs sweet ^^

 

920@4ghz eats every "StateOfTheArt"game for breakfast

 

as somebody allready said, you dont need a 5870 for playing dcs on max grafikdetails...

I have a OCed 4890 and i run everything on max, and i even had resources for some imagequality-tweaking with frazers awesome tuning guide.

 

check the signature for my Hardwarespecs.

[Conuk]

the SSD`s are indeed sweet and will complete your quick setup.

 

I went for the intel 80 gb SSD - with the purpose of maybe getting another soon.... still kept the raptors for other stuff.

 

OS is well snappy - and loading times for DCS are very very good.

 

Again maybe the 5870 is overkill but you have headroom for future games ?

[vortex360]

I went from an Nvidia 8800 GT and AMD 5200+ to an ATI 5770 and AMD 3ghz x4. It has been a great improvement in Black Shark. I went through 6 8800's and I'm back with ATI.

[Axion]

To be honest I don't see that much of an improvement over a GTX 280. As someone mentioned, it's the CPU that counts.

Edited February 12, 2010 by Axion

[Lucid484]

Im about to build my system similiar to yours

 

i7-920 but it will only be over clocked to 3.3-3.5 (read alot that the 920 doesnt like to go past 3.8 and with a 21 multiplier you need to loosen the timings on RAM to up the BCLK which the low latency ram is what i7s love)

 

6gb Mushkin PC-1600 6-6-6-18 Ram!

Crucial C300 SSD (i know its $500 but 355mbs is crazy!!!)

Ati 5870

Asus Maximus MB

[hitman]

use the 5850 instead...its performance is equal to the 5870 and far cheaper. i heard nothing but good things about this card and ill be back to ati over nvidia once again. the 5850 beats the gtx295 like wolverine beating the snot outta batman. my rig will be about the same as yours, hopefully ill have it done by months end.

Edited February 26, 2010 by hitman

[Axion]

Mushkin PC-1600 6-6-6-18 RAM, where do I get a piece of that? Never heard of DDR3 Ram with those latencies.

[Lucid484]

oh sorry is 6-7-6-18

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226050

 

not bad for $250!

 

just went out of stock a few hours ago but they are getting more in 4 days.

[Axion]

Good price for the spec; wonder when they will be available in the U.K?

[Lucid484]

pretty sure you can order from new egg and ship to the uk...yeah those are prolly the best timings for that speed available..benchmarks show quite often that higher 2000 plus speed and looser latencies arent as quick as slightly slower speed with real tight timings.

[topdog]

Q's for Mr Pink please-

 

I was wondering if the i7 920 @ 4GHz was something you had planned on overclocking yourself or you went for a pre-set mobo/cpu(/ram) combo (and any tales to tell from the experience). I'd been looking at that as the 'easy way out' for not getting my hands too dirty by buying a bundled deal from OC myself.

 

Also- are you running it air or water cooled?

 

Cheers.

[Lucid484]

not to bust in...but there are some boards liek the asus rampage im getting that setup automatic overclocking VERY easily and even set all the voltages properly for you.!!!

 

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/rampage_ii_extreme/

 

this is the board im getting they test it with an i7-920 scroll down to teh setup & overclocking page!

[Ramstein]

if you have a fast computer, why would you want to put stress on it by overclocking it? your eyes probably would not see more than 60 fps anyways..

:joystick:

[Lucid484]

because intel them selves state that their processors can go higher than what they are at factory and thats why mobo manufacturers design OC boards...intel knows that people will do it...hey the $250 i7-920 EASILY over clocks to the $1000 i7-975 extreme!!! and its WELL below its thermal/volatge capacities....why wouldn't you want to save $750 for 2 minutes of tweaking....the 920 has been proven to easily do 3.8ghz at 24/7 daily operation and 4+ghz for extreme benchmarking. thats why i only plan on goint to the 975 speed (3.33 ghz)...its far less than the max 24/7 so it will be cool and stable.

 

besided games like BS and lockon still arent optimized for multiple cores...thats why a fast single core pentium 4 can beat out a 2.6 ghz quad core! these games are CPU intensive so just by upping the speed a little bit and perfectly safe you can gain tons of performance!

[Lucid484]

@topdog

read that review site i linked and search i7-920 for further reading... yes they can goto 4ghz but not for long term 24/7 operation like I stated above..in fact most chips out in circulation will only goto 3.8ghz....get some good low latency ram and just up the BCLCK slightly and goto 3.3-3.5 ghz and youll have long term stable speeds!