How to land when helo refuses to do so.

[DaveRindner]

So I hit an interesting problem. I set my wind to 25 m/s with 25 ms*.1 turbulence. Pretty intense wind.

 

Take was into the wind with quite a bit more forward cyclic deflection then usual, to avoid wind induced slipback(backwards flight due to strong headwind).

The helo was empty with 50% fuel. A training flight loadout.

 

The problem was landing back on the FARP. I approached the FARP turned into the wind (137 heading). Brought the helo to near hover and at 5knots ground speed, trimmed the cyclic. At that time I noticed that my collective was already low. I positioned the helo at 2 knots gnd speed to land, lowered gear, and reduced the collective to gentle settle. The helo reduced height to 7-8m radar altitude and stopped settling. I further reduced collective, and at that point hit the collective minimum. The helo settled down to 5 meters, and refused to land. Just hanging there in slightly forward leaning attitude, with collective all the way down, and myself thinking I as out of options, and kicking myself for setting such high met. conditions. The only thing I could do to reduce the throttle. Well that was not too bright, I started loosing electric power, but helo did settle with loud umph on the FARP. I figure that that is probably not the correct reallife procedure. Does not sound safe.

Is there a better way of handling this situation.

 

DR

[EtherealN]

Do you still have a track file? It sounds like you might have a joystick issue where the collective actually isn't bottomed out when your joystick's throttle is. I have issues sometimes with the throttle on my Cyborg Evo unless I have made sure to move the throttle through it's full range of motion at least once.

 

This would be visible on the collective indicator at the bottom left of your instrument panel. This obviously assumes that you are playing in Simulator mode.

 

If this is what is happening, the weather thing would just be coincidence.

[159th_Viper]

Agree - has to be a Calibration Issue. See the following track - Mission where I replicated your Wind/Turbulence setting and had no probs landing.

 

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[JG14_Smil]

I note that when on reduced fuel loads, the helo does not like to descend as much. Free turbine RPM governor to low will help the helo to descend better.

[AlphaOneSix]

Free turbine RPM governor to low will help the helo to descend better.

 

I was going to say this also.

[Obiwan]

Or enter a hovering auto rotation :)

[159th_Falcon]

Or enter a hovering auto rotation :)

 

http://www.dynamicflight.com/aerodynamics/autos/index2.shtml

scroll down till you see the "Conditions" heading, take a read on condition one.

I think you should think at least twice before entering an "hovering" as you call it auto-rotation. Its the most dangerous one of them all.

 

For the rest http://www.dynamicflight.com/aerodynamics good informative website about (helicopter) aerodynamics

[Obiwan]

Not when your close to the ground, usually below 10ft. Now granted, he said 7-8 meters, not feet. My comment was most in jest (hence the smiley). However, There's nothing wrong with hovering auto-rotations. Part of any training and check ride.

[My Fing ID]

Find a building and get really close.

[26-J39]

Do you still have a track file? It sounds like you might have a joystick issue where the collective actually isn't bottomed out when your joystick's throttle is. I have issues sometimes with the throttle on my Cyborg Evo unless I have made sure to move the throttle through it's full range of motion at least once.

 

Sounds like a/the possible issue...

 

I tried some examples in ME .... 50M/s head wind, had np landing or getting the helo to descend. Had fun with the tail wind tho.:D 470+ in forward flight... lol

[Deigs]

... 470+ in forward flight... lol

 

You would have to be one of the fastest pilots I've consistantly read about. :)