Announcing Flaming Cliffs 2.0

[mikoyan]

EvilBivol as i remember long time ago members talk and pray to have a Dual seat controls aircraft like the Su30 for example. ( or Su27 moded ). I remember correctly we could do it via LAN but is this still in a project ? doing it via online ?

 

This was dormant but maybe it is worth waking it.. I mean imagine the fun flying 2 in one aircraft..!!! an other dimension!!!!

 

Thx

 

Why? I don't want another person saying:

oh no you cant launch your r-27et now... that is maddoging.

no no you landed too hard!

What are you doing you aare going to make me puke with all those rolls.

Can we stop now I need to go potty

Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?:megalol:

[71st_Mastiff]

Why? I don't want another person saying:

oh no you cant launch your r-27et now... that is maddoging.

no no you landed too hard!

What are you doing you aare going to make me puke with all those rolls.

Can we stop now I need to go potty

Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?:megalol:

 

its in Il2 you can piolt while some one is gunner/

[claud]

Why? I don't want another person saying:

oh no you cant launch your r-27et now... that is maddoging.

no no you landed too hard!

What are you doing you aare going to make me puke with all those rolls.

Can we stop now I need to go potty

Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?Are we there yet?:megalol:

 

there's a simple solution to that problem

 

don't fly with dumb ass morons.

 

a double seater can be an amazing thing which will require team work like never before , ofc if u choose an asshole to be your number 2 that is entirely your problem , that's like saying why bother with MP , your wingman can be annoying as well...he doesn't have to be in the back seat to drive you insane.

[EvilBivol-1]

Mind your language.

[claud]

hehe i thought there would be **** after i posted...guess i was wrong :D

[Thunderbird]

come on guys

chill

[brewber19]

Will the FC2 patch mean proper widescreen support for my Su-25T? I'd be well pleased if I can finally fly my Su25T with the correct aspect ratio/FoV for widescreen.

 

Looking forward to the patch. I had a quick waz around last night in the 'T' (its been about 12 months since I last played FC...and BS just isn't doing it for me like I'd hoped) and all I can say is, bring on the patch - it might just be enough for me to dust off my CH gear and disrupt marital relations with the boss ;)

[Boberro]

What's wrong with widescreen for Froggy?

[brewber19]

Its a long time since I tried, but you could tweak configs etc for Su25A but no tweaks would work for the Su-25T...in a similar way that invulnerability works for the A frog but not the T frog. Just one of those things. I'm hoping the widescreen feature will be added to the T frog in FC2

 

(if memory serves to get lomac to WS you had to edit the graphics.cfg file to set the screen resolution and aspect ratio, then I think it was views.cfg or something to set the FoV a little differently. Anyway, I never got this to work with the T frog :()

[Boberro]

Oh so either I don't know how cockpit should look in widescreen (1680x1050) or I didn't find anything wrong with view. Anyway I hope it'll be fixed too :D

[brewber19]

Hi Boberro,

 

If you got the T frog looking good in widescreen I'd be very interested in the settings you've been using...and could you post a screenie?

 

regards

Brewber

[Boberro]

So... what's wrong in cockpit view :)

 

[Scarecrow]

To setup widescreen you need to edit the following section of Graphics.cfg as such

 

DisplayMode

{

resolution = {1600, 900};

bpp = 32;

fullscreen = 1;

aspect = 1.333333373;

Interface

{

resolution = {1600, 900};

bpp = 32;

fullscreen = 1;

aspect = 1.333333373;

}

Simulation

{

resolution = {1600, 900};

bpp = 32;

fullscreen = 1;

aspect = 1.77;

}

AVI

{

resolution = {640, 480};

fullscreen = 0;

aspect = 1.3333;

I only changed the simulation values and left the rest default

 

Then to change the Su25T default zoom you have to edit snapviews.lua in the views folder

 

Snap[4][13]["viewAngle"] = 118.663398742676

Snap[4][13]["vAngle"] = -20.382137298584

Snap[4][13]["hAngle"] = 0

 

the 4 refers to 25T and 13 is the default Fov, I also changed the defalult vertical angle to centre the view. I haven't changed any of the other fovs or angles for the other snapviews as I use TrackIr.

Edited January 6, 2010 by Scarecrow

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Or use LoCFG to modify it easily.

[brewber19]

@ Scarecrow: Thanks for those settings. They feel a bit off for me, but definately make a difference and give me something to tweak, thanks.

 

@ Lucas From Hell: Thanks for the suggestion, but I prefer to tweak things by hand, that way I know what's going on and if/when something breaks, the likely cause. I'll keep it in mind though.

[71st_Mastiff]

Its a long time since I tried, but you could tweak configs etc for Su25A but no tweaks would work for the Su-25T...in a similar way that invulnerability works for the A frog but not the T frog. Just one of those things. I'm hoping the widescreen feature will be added to the T frog in FC2

 

(if memory serves to get lomac to WS you had to edit the graphics.cfg file to set the screen resolution and aspect ratio, then I think it was views.cfg or something to set the FoV a little differently. Anyway, I never got this to work with the T frog :()

 

you can change your field of view for diffrent planes...

[104th_Crunch]

Widescreen and LO has been discussed before in the forums, but here is the overview. The default aspect setting in the graphics.cfg file is 1.3. If you have a widescreen you manually change that value in graphics.cfg for all 4 lines (the one for AVI doesn't matter much though). You can also use LOCFG, or a bat file to set them.

 

The value to set depends on your wide screen aspect ratio 16:10 or 16:9. Just divide to figure the correct ratio i.e 16/9= 1.7, 16/10 = 1.6, or use your monitor resolution ex. 1920/1200 = 1.6 etc. btw, LCD monitors always look best at their natural resolution so try to set your game to the same resolution.

 

Also, as soon as you change something in the in-game options menu, the value gets reset to 1.3 so you have to change it back.

 

DCS corrected this bug/lack of feature, so it's sure to be corrected in FC 2.

[Boberro]

@Brewber - did you really don't know this fieature? Never you've met it? :O

[brewber19]

Hi Boberro,

 

Its been a long time since I played FC and recall I was unsuccessful in getting LOFC to play nice with widescreen. Ironically after the post from Scarecrow I went and had another play and whadya know...FC in widescreem seems to work fine. I guess the first time I tried (a few years ago now) I screwed it up.

 

Edit: I think it was because originally all that time ago I was changing the FoV in the View.cfg file, which had no effect, and I should have been making the changes in the snapfiew.lua file...whose changes are reflected in the game...and the view.lua file.

 

I've tweaked things for an hour or so yesterday and seem to have arrived at a comfortable configuration so...roll on FC2.0 ;)

 

Thanks all for your help, and sorry to hijack the main topic.

 

regards

Brewber.

Edited January 7, 2010 by brewber19

[vienna1210]

Okay folks....but what i see also here is something different.

 

What does DCS expect?

Putting a high defined, highly modeled simulation like BS together with FC 2.0 ?

 

The only way i can imagine, a good multiplay would come up is, when SU25 & BS are together in a game.

anything else, like the other planes, will result in unfair situations.

 

On one side there are the serious simulation-freaks, handle difficult systems, and flight models, and on the other side, the >arcade< gamers (compared to BS).

 

I dont think, i will see too much, if ever in long term, FC 2.0 planes and black-shark together online, in multiplayer, player vs. player.

 

Its sad, but i would like to see the same detail model to all other flying object, as BS has.

This would make sense, specially in multiplayer gaming.

Otherwise, a Mig29 pilot will be in the air and ready to fight, 10 times faster then even a BS pilot can ever do.

 

regards

Vienna

[ESA_MistrL]

Hi there Vienna.

I agree, for gamers, BS-FC compatibility doesn´t make sense. But on the other hand, for serious simulation-freaks, this issue is AWESOME. There is a lot more than SU25 and BS.

You have an entire universe of posibilities.

You can bild up a multi-role mission, SU25, BS playing CAS role. MIG29 for patrolling the air space and facing enemy air threats. SU27 for CAP or scort any other flight. SU33 for interdiction. The posibilities are close to several billions of combinations.

Try to coordinate an action with SU25T first wave to destroy enemy Anti Aircaft defenses, SU25 and BS helos attacking an armored o mech battalion while MIG29 or SU27 are patrolling and keeping Air superiority.

DO you still think it´s only for SU25 and BS helos?

[vienna1210]

no doubt about what you mentioned. In coop missions.

 

But, you might missunderstud me....i just focused on multiplayer player vs. player.

 

i just imagine, the people i remember on all the online servers i was before.

if i would enter there with the black-shark....i would be handicaped badly .-)

 

regards

vienna

[ESA_MistrL]

Now I got you.

Yeap, you are probably right, but let me pinpoint something.

If you think in joining an onlione server, you´re right, but I´m thinking in something diferent because I don´t really like joining servers. What I like the most is to build up a Multiplayer online mission from the very begining. Several roles, a complete and freak-close-to-real briefing, pilots studying the missions, their flight plans, their targets if any, enemy threats, Air Defense Areas, whatever. And all of this is not only for coop missions, It actually can be for player vs player missions.

The only limitation is the number of pilots. But anyway, for me its amazing so 1000% I will purchase FC 2.0 and I will be happy´, and of course, one more time I say ED MANY THANKS. You have given us tons of entertainment and I will be always out here, waiting for your upgrades/new releases. There will always be a bunch of $ avaliable in my pocket (hopefully)

[Joe Kurr]

You guys should go to the LLTM :)

[vienna1210]

ESA_Mistr@L, i totally agree, with what you wrote!

if it is like this, i would love to use the whole options in FC 2.0 together with BS.

 

regards

vienna