Joystick sensitivity

[Protek]

Hi guys,

I'm a complete noob so forgive me. I'm just starting Black Shark. I've got the game settings on "Game" mode but my Joystick is too sensitive for me to fly. i'm all over the place even though i move my Joystick a few millimetres. i've tried looking for Joystick sensitivity in control panel but no joy. can anyone help/advise?

 

Thanks in Advance,

[Frazer]

Hi Protek, welcome to the forum!

 

First, what joystick do you have?

 

Second, it is quite normal for unexperienced pilots to have difficulties controlling the Ka-50 in a smooth way. Over time, you will "develop" a more stable hand.

[Protek]

Hi Frazer,

Thanks for your reply. I have a Microsoft Forcefeedback Sidewinder. I would say that i have quite a gentle hand at using my joystick but in "Black Shark" i'm all over the place.

[159th_Viper]

....i've tried looking for Joystick sensitivity in control panel but no joy. can anyone help/advise?

 

Thanks in Advance,

 

Navigate to SP GUI/Options/Controls/Axis Commands and Highlight the JoyY (Pitch) and/or JoyX (Roll) entry under your Flightstick Tab. Then hit 'Axis Tune' and set your Curvature value from the default Linear to reduce sensitivity.

[majapahit]

Navigate to SP GUI/Options/Controls/Axis Commands and Highlight the JoyY (Pitch) and/or JoyX (Roll) entry under your Flightstick Tab. Then hit 'Axis Tune' and set your Curvature value from the default Linear to reduce sensitivity.

NOT if you want to keep FF trim

 

with a MS FF stick you have to tick the bug fix 'swap axis' box in the FF setup

do NOT change curvature with a FF stick, or you'll loose FF trim (do Not use 'centered trim' in options when using a FF stick)

 

also if you Hover too soon or do a 'surface bump' and Roll Pitch Heading damp (3 of 4 blue lights on autopilot) are not ON or are Blinking, means you lost damping and you'll be all over the place

 

proper damping (allignment) will start after 3minutes after an interruption (f.i. bump surface) and the signal for allignment is the proper SPEED readout in the top left of the HUD

[Protek]

Ok, i've been trying to alter the options for my joystick but i'm findig the Helicopter is still eratic. in the options i have Deadzone (I believe that is for "no action") Saturation X & then Saturation Y and then Curvature. Can you tell me what "Saturation" means please? and also Curvature? I've been trying to alter them at different settings but i'm getting irratic Heli Movements. Thanks guys, really appreciate your advice.

[majapahit]

Ok, i've been trying to alter the options for my joystick but i'm findig the Helicopter is still eratic. in the options i have Deadzone (I believe that is for "no action") Saturation X & then Saturation Y and then Curvature. Can you tell me what "Saturation" means please? and also Curvature? I've been trying to alter them at different settings but i'm getting irratic Heli Movements. Thanks guys, really appreciate your advice.

 

did you do the 'swap axis'?

 

EDIT:

hit

Enter - RCtrl <> Show controls indicator

 

then you SEE what you're doing

Edited February 12, 2010 by majapahit

[Protek]

Hi Maja, yes, i swapped the Axes. To be honest, i don't understand all the options. FF Tune Trimmer force =100 then Shake=50 then there's Slider, Invert and user curve! I'm at a total loss of what to do!

[majapahit]

Hi Maja, yes, i swapped the Axes. To be honest, i don't understand all the options. FF Tune Trimmer force =100 then Shake=50 then there's Slider, Invert and user curve! I'm at a total loss of what to do!

 

FF:

trimmer: set to your pref (trim position force)

shake: set to your pref (shaking)

MS Sidewinder: swap axis

 

slider: 0-100 (trottle)

not slider (around a center): -50-0-50 (pitch roll rudder)

 

invert: ~ obvious (for when you want your throttle inverted)

 

curvature: make an S slope (NOT when FF)

user curve: make a stepped S slope (not when FF)

curve <> NOT for FF Pitch Roll (trim will be BAD)

 

DCS BS pretty much should feel your stick and set allready to proper default (not FF)

 

again: Enter - RCtrl <> Show controls indicator so you see what you're doiing

 

apart from a GunFire and MissileRelease,

you Must define a Trimmer button on the top of your MSFF, you'll use this every so many seconds!

 

with

Enter - RCtrl <> Show controls indicator

you'll see what it does (and you'll get used to it)

 

button 1 Gun

button 2 Missile

button 3 Trim

button 4 Hover (ONLY use when HUD displays groundspeed topleft <> INS Nav is ready <> 3min warmup <>or your hover will be (*&&^%&)

Edited February 12, 2010 by majapahit

[TenBlade]

I´m still a bit new to BS, but with my Thrustmaster Cougar I find curving to 50 makes it more flyable. Try that, save and name your profile accordingly.

Will experiment with even bigger curves, I still get see-saw motion frequently, think it´s too much input.

[majapahit]

I´m still a bit new to BS, but with my Thrustmaster Cougar I find curving to 50 makes it more flyable. Try that, save and name your profile accordingly.

Will experiment with even bigger curves, I still get see-saw motion frequently, think it´s too much input.

for all Blind and/or Illiterate people uttering their sillybilly: MS Forcefeedback stick must not have a curve :mad:

[Protek]

I'm not really interested in using "Force Feedback". I don't have the power supply connected. Will that make a difference?

[majapahit]

I'm not really interested in using "Force Feedback". I don't have the power supply connected. Will that make a difference?

there's no centering then, and you'll have to steer (or carefully not touch) all the time

it's rather tiring or rather unrealistic

[Protek]

Thanks Maja, i've sorted it. One thing i'd like to say is that, when taking over the Helicopters controls during Training it will always be in Realisitc mode & not in the user selected Mode. Again, thanks for your help guys. Looking forward to getting my new Radeon HD5970 Graphics Card. :D

[Sabre-TLA]

I always fly with the autopilot buttons enabled. They call them autopilot buttons but really they are control dampers which make it easier to fly.

[TenBlade]

for all Blind and/or Illiterate people uttering their sillybilly: MS Forcefeedback stick must not have a curve :mad:

As per forum rules:

1.2. - Members must treat other with respect and tolerance.

[majapahit]

As per forum rules:

1.2. - Members must treat other with respect and tolerance.

oh dear tenblade junior

life isnt fair is it

as unfair as turkey shooting ground troopes in an ugly war

:P:P

[TenBlade]

oh dear tenblade junior

life isnt fair is it

as unfair as turkey shooting ground troopes in an ugly war

:P:P

As per forum rules:

1.2. - Members must treat other with respect and tolerance.

[majapahit]

As per forum rules:

1.2. - Members must treat other with respect and tolerance.

 

sergeant sergeant .. diapers needed here .. fast

the baby is gonna blow

[TenBlade]

sergeant sergeant .. diapers needed here .. fast

the baby is gonna blow

I think you should stop your rude comments, this is no way to behave in a public forum.

[majapahit]

I think you should stop your rude comments, this is no way to behave in a public forum.

What I find particularly offensive to any notion of what is deemed civilized is the persistancy of a boy brain in the wrong to harass the general public with his adolescent exhibition of want for a world full of mothers breasts, on a forum dedicated to a war machine.

Have some warm bottled milk instead, and take the tumb out of your mouth :chair:

[EvilBivol-1]

Warned and closed.