Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[Newt]

Mmmmmm.............5 slices for 5 toasters............Fidelity is sorely lacking it seems :disgust:

 

Lol :D

[Laud]

While dissiniliar air combat is great, in FC I have no issues when doing BVR or BFM when I am in a Su27 for example and so is my opponent.

 

From time to time yes, but what about only and exclusively? Well we're not going to have a choice, right?! ;)

[BLAKE]

what about this Mig 31BM, I'd love to see this interceptor in DCS :) pity its two seater :mad:

[Phantom88]

^^Haha^^ Foxbat........The Anti-Eagle

[GGTharos]

The Foxbat is all about shooting down bombers and cruise missiles. It might not actually do so well against eagles.

[Phantom88]

Hmmm,If I remember correctly,The F-15 was developed because air superiority was challenged by the FoxBat and The USA needed to keep The Advantage.Were they not developed and in action approximately the same time?

[GGTharos]

Your analysis is too simplistic. The FoxHound is a bigger threat. The FoxBat isn't a competitor to the F-15 in any way, unless it catches a 15 by surprise.

 

And in general, the Foxhound's role is also different from that of an F-15. It isn't air superiority, it is homeland defense. At this point in time, golden eagles are probably superior to foxhounds as well in everything other than sustained speed and possibly missile range.

[Eddie]

Hmmm,If I remember correctly,The F-15 was developed because air superiority was challenged by the FoxBat and The USA needed to keep The Advantage.Were they not developed and in action approximately the same time?

 

The F-15 was, in part, developed to counter the perceived threat from the Foxbat based on what the intel of the time suggested it could do. However the intel greatly overestimated the Foxbat's capabilities, in reality it wasn't half the threat that it was thought to be.

[Laud]

The Foxbat is all about shooting down bombers and cruise missiles. It might not actually do so well against eagles.

 

Long Range Interceptor -> BORING! (at least for a sim - and for me ;) )

[OutOnTheOP]

GG, when you say Golden Eagle, are you refering to the Republic of Korea T-50, the Su-47, a new variant of the F-15, or a toungue-in-cheek reference to an actual feathered bird of prey?

[GGTharos]

I mean the latest round of F-15C upgrades.

 

New cockpit, IRST, AESA, more powerful processors, revamped countermeasures suite possibly with MWS+DIRCM, etc.

[Demongornot]

DCS F-15 Silent Eagle !!!!!!

Anyway, F-16 will have new version for exportation, F-15 too with the Silent Eagle, the F-35 will coming into active service, F-18 will have modernization with a project like Silent Eagle.

 

A lot of new things will coming !!!

[OutOnTheOP]

GG, is this a seperate upgrade from Silent Eagle, then? I guess it must be, if it's an F-15C upgrade... Silent Eagle is an -E upgrade.

 

Speaking of which, got to play around with their Silent Eagle simulator a few weeks back at the Korean ADEX expo. Cool stuff... the cockpit reminds me of nothing more than an F-35, with the single large touchscreen.

 

Got to see the F-35 and Rafale simulator pits too, but unfortunately didn't get to play with them.

[GGTharos]

Yes, the Golden Eagle is an F-15C upgrade. They figured hey, they have to keep the F-15's, it has plenty of room for growth, put some new stuff in.

 

And I mean cutting edge stuff. So it isn't stealth - but it'll still ruin your day.

 

And that's pretty cool about the SE :) Very nice! :)

[OutOnTheOP]

GG, speaking of F-15 stealth, that's one of the thing I asked their test pilots there: they were making a big deal about the slanted fins and internal bays for their stealth characteristics; I asked if there was anything done to the inlets or compressors to help reduce the blades RCS; I was told they couldn't redesign the inlets without a major airframe redesign (no surprise there), but they claimed there were "other things we can do to reduce the fan RCS". Not sure if they meant grates like the F-117, some kind of RAM on the blades, or what.

[GGTharos]

Internal radar blockers. Sort of like the grates on the F-117, but inside the inlets. Might not actually look like grates :)

[Dudikoff]

Yes, the Golden Eagle is an F-15C upgrade. They figured hey, they have to keep the F-15's, it has plenty of room for growth, put some new stuff in.

 

Yeah, the F-22 closure really messed up their plans (it's really tragic to see the F-35 price creeping up to it as it's much less capable, at least in the A2A department). Sure the F-15Cs have some upgrade potential, but I'm not so sure how much service life they still have in them to justify big investments in the long run (e.g. the fleet grounding from last year). Those upgraded Eagles might end up as F-14Ds did (e.g. both F-15s and F-16s replaced by F-35As) in not so distant future. Fortunately for the F-15Cs, they're not really needed in the current conflicts, so their service hours are not being as drained as the legacy Hornets' are.

 

I was told they couldn't redesign the inlets without a major airframe redesign (no surprise there), but they claimed there were "other things we can do to reduce the fan RCS". Not sure if they meant grates like the F-117, some kind of RAM on the blades, or what.

 

I thought it might be something similar to the way it's handled on the SH, but then again, I think the SH has a fixed intake inlet so can afford the space for such modifications, while the Eagle has a variable inlet size (so it can fly at higher speeds) which complicates matters regarding such RCS reducing modifications.

Edited November 7, 2011 by Dudikoff

[GGTharos]

Yeah, the F-22 closure really messed up their plans. Though, sure the F-15Cs have some upgrade potential, but I'm not sure how much service life they still have in them to justify big investments in the long run (e.g. the fleet grounding from last year).

 

They can re-zero some parts of the airframe, or the whole airframe, depending. Only a few eagles had the defect you are referring to.

 

Those upgraded Eagles might end up as F-14Ds did (e.g. both F-15s and F-16s replaced by F-35As) in not so distant future. Fortunately for the F-15Cs, they're not really needed in the current conflicts, so their service hours are not being as drained as the legacy Hornets' are.

 

I somewhat doubt they'll be so easily replaced. The F-35 would be a good air superiority fighter against a lot of aircraft thanks to its stealth, but they're needed for blowing stuff up. F-15C's have one, single dedicated mission: Blowing up stuff that flies.

 

I thought it might be something similar to the way it's handled on the SH, but then again, I think the SH has a fixed intake inlet so can afford the space for such modifications, while the Eagle has a variable inlet size (so it can fly at higher speeds) which complicates matters regarding such RCS reducing modifications.

 

Not just higher speeds, but better sustained turns/energy in general at high altitude. Internal blockers would do it.

[Frostiken]

DCS F-15 Silent Eagle !!!!!!

Anyway, F-16 will have new version for exportation, F-15 too with the Silent Eagle, the F-35 will coming into active service, F-18 will have modernization with a project like Silent Eagle.

 

A lot of new things will coming !!!

Don't discount the millions and millions of dollars being funneled into the F-15E which is undergoing its third major avionics revision and upgrade in five years. F-15Cs, F-16s, and even F/A-18s all are living on borrowed time - F-15Es aren't going anywhere for several decades.

[robmypro]

I like the F-16 because of the duel role it plays. Nothing like getting jumped on the way to the target and having to dump everything and get into a furball. Or more than likely keep them off your buddy while he goes for the target.

 

The A-10 is good, but I like the variety of the F-16. And yes, refueling is awesome.

[Squid]

So are F-16 Block 40 to 52, several decades ahead too. Looks like New AESA will be fited and more structural reinforcement is planned

[Mt5_Roie]

So I had a recent thought on the subject. I was watching the Black Shark 2 video and noticed they have moving ships now that the black shark can land on. Moving ships could mean a working moving aircraft carrier...which would be nice to go with a F/A-18.

[Squid]

F-16 can land on carriers too (in simulators) :D

[Moa]

So are F-16 Block 40 to 52, several decades ahead too. Looks like New AESA will be fited and more structural reinforcement is planned

 

The Vipers are going to be refurbished, but are really starting to show their age. Check out the following article for a summary of this:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20111108.aspx

[EtherealN]

F-16 can land on carriers too (in simulators) :D

 

Best ever was an F-16 that one of my brothers landed upside down on a submarine in Fighting Falcon, back in the Amiga era. :D