ogata321 Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 hahaha, that would be awesome... btw. what do you think how many people do not have watched Star wars yet? ;) Well, only way to find out is to ask them :D
Jona33 Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 Face it people, you're going to get used up planes, that are probably not in service or at least not in active service anymore which I don't see a problem with :) We got an A-10C. That's definitely in service. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
ogata321 Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 If you'd just said Incom T-65 that would have filtered out the casual geeks. X-wing is too universal. Now how about a multiplayer Correllian Engineering Corporation YT-1300? Why not? Trough for now we should be praying for a DCS:Hind or DCS:F-14, we'll start annoying ED for fictional stuff when there are no more jets and helis left..:D.
nomdeplume Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 We got an A-10C. That's definitely in service. True, but we may have just gotten lucky there - it was originally planned/expected to be the A-10A. Only time will tell if that was a one off or if modernised versions of aircraft will be the norm. Also, the Ka-50 isn't exactly cutting-edge technology.
Weta43 Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Also, the Ka-50 isn't exactly cutting-edge technology. Maybe, but it is in service. Cheers.
neroroxxx Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I would love to see the F-22 or F-4 I would also love to have more survey sims in lock on, as much as i love the level of realism of DCS i also love the simplicity of lock on compared to DCS, i'd be great to have the same quality of graphics on lock on and if say DCS releases the F-16 or F-18 as their new study sim, they should also release a lock on survey version, sort of like GAME mode except only for the more involved aspects, like switching to ILS approach. Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
104th_Crunch Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I would love to see the F-22 or F-4 I would also love to have more survey sims in lock on, as much as i love the level of realism of DCS i also love the simplicity of lock on compared to DCS, i'd be great to have the same quality of graphics on lock on and if say DCS releases the F-16 or F-18 as their new study sim, they should also release a lock on survey version, sort of like GAME mode except only for the more involved aspects, like switching to ILS approach. FC3 will have DCS graphics with Lock On simplicity. So your wish will come true. What would be cool is to not develop FC any further and instead release DCS modules with a game mode, Lock On mode and realistic mode. Everyone would be happy!
MemphisBelle Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 What would be cool is to not develop FC any further and instead release DCS modules with a game mode, Lock On mode and realistic mode. Everyone would be happy! Tell this the still existing FC Community...they would be soo happy:music_whistling: BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
GGTharos Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 People who want a stable of survey aircraft wouldn't be. Everyone would be happy! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
104th_Crunch Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Tell this the still existing FC Community...they would be soo happy:music_whistling: Why would anyone be unhappy? FC will already be intergrated in to DCS and anything new could have FC mode and DCS mode. What exactly would make FC fans dissapointed?
104th_Crunch Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 but GG, as I say above, keep what is there in FC intergrated going forward.
JaNk0 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Just one additional wish for any aircraft, or even the game. Would be very nice if the black exhaust smoke will be featured in later updates. Will give a lot of immersion! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OutOnTheOP Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Black smoke? Sure, for MiG29s, and *maybe* Su27, but modern western fighters burn their exhaust clean. Not sure if the difference is in the fuel mixture or the engine designs, but western jets don't leave visible smoke trails.
Eddie Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Not sure if the difference is in the fuel mixture or the engine designs, but western jets don't leave visible smoke trails. Not really true. ALL jet engines produce smoke to some degree in certain conditions. While it's true that more modern jets don't produce the thick smoke signatures you see from Mig-29s, B-52s and other aircraft with older engines, even the most modern aircraft produce exhaust smoke in some circumstances. Low level (especially in warm/hot weather), low speed at mil power is the most common condition for smoke. At higher altitudes and speeds they don't tend to produce any visible smoke signature, and of course even at low level there isn't as much as older jets. But it's still visible, just not from as far away.
JaNk0 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Picture evidence Taken by "thenewarea51" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
HerrKaputt Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 My ideal game would be a survey sim, like Lock On, but with helicopters. AND a dynamic campaign. Essentially a modern version of EECH. Obviously, I'm not holding my breath...
Dudikoff Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Why would anyone be unhappy? FC will already be intergrated in to DCS and anything new could have FC mode and DCS mode. What exactly would make FC fans dissapointed? Just the small fact that there seems to be a 2 year wait period for each new plane (compared to approximately 3 for FC in the same time period)? i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
104th_Crunch Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Just the small fact that there seems to be a 2 year wait period for each new plane (compared to approximately 3 for FC in the same time period)? Well. Creating separate planes for DCS and FC will take even longer as a whole. I am thinking about fans of both survey sims and study sims. My suggestion would make things simpler and get fans of both in the same jet.
badger66 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I feel that FC2 is still extremly popular . Many fast jet people that Ive met on FC2 , havent followed into the world of DCS . Therefore , I believe that FC3 is certainly a step in the correct direction . I for one , am eager to see what magic this new angle holds ..... it can only get better in my view . New releases need to be balanced . For example , in FC2 , the allied strike package was bollocks . Why , cuz the A-10A was crap , simple . Look at what the Toad could do , a bitch to fly but look at what it could do !!! Now , ED have the possibility of creating something really amazing ..... Just wish there was a little more info at presant is all . Well done I say , cant wait for FC3 and the new DCS release . Nomatter what it is (DCS) I probably wont buy it as I want to stick with my pig ..... but FC3 , if preorder was available , Id have one tomorrow .
Dudikoff Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Well. Creating separate planes for DCS and FC will take even longer as a whole. I am thinking about fans of both survey sims and study sims. My suggestion would make things simpler and get fans of both in the same jet. I don't see these concepts as mutually exclusive. Yes, they could make a DCS aircraft and dumb it down for a cheaper release of an FC-level version, but they can also work on a few more FC-level aircraft in parallel to sell in the meantime. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Krebs20 Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) From the DCS websites FAQ. Q: While is it good that Eagle strives to make very detailed vehicle simulations, how about developing some additional vehicles at a lesser detail level that you may not have complete data for?? A: Given our equal focus on military-gradesimulations for non-entertainment purposes, we now only pursue projects that we have ample data for such that we can demo to the military as representative of what we can do for them. Guess work is not an option. While no synthetic simulation will ever be 100% accurate given the constraints of the PC platform, we strive to be as close to that as we can. Knowingly making educated guesses is again not an option (see point 1). Thislevelof detail is one of the primary hallmarks of the new DCS line of productsand just one thing that separates it from the Lock On line and other PC-based helicopter sims. We realize that this restricts us to the number of aircraft we can model, but even with the aircraft we have good data for, we will bebusy foratleast thenext decade. http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/faq/ I don't know how ED feels about making new aircraft for FC. But at least when this was written, it wasn't an option. I personaly would have no problem paying 10-15$ for an aircraft with FC2 level of avionics. As long as its compatible online. Edited April 19, 2012 by Krebs20 added link. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Frostiken Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Picture evidence Taken by "thenewarea51" -15s tend to gas a lot of smoke out the ass when putting a lot of power on quickly from low speed. It's pretty much the same theory behind why cars spew a lot of exhaust doing the same thing. Given that the F-15 isn't maintaining high-alpha and is following an A-10 with its airbrakes deployed nearly to full, I'm going to say that's exactly what's happening. But no, F-15s aren't like B-52s and leave big greasy black stains across the sky. Edited April 20, 2012 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
112th_Rossi Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Interesting see people wanting an F22. Even if that was possible it would be the least favourite of mine to be develop because: a) Its ugly as sin b) Too many bells and whistles. I want to fly and think, not just push buttons For me, going back in time slightly to the late 1980s would be perfect: DCS: Fulcrum DCS: AV8B Harrier/GR7 Harrier DCS: Intruder DCS: Tomcat All would be brilliant. I think the latter days of the cold war are a perfect era to simulate.
EtherealN Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 b) Too many bells and whistles. I want to fly and think, not just push buttons Except that the one thing they work on the most is to make the job of the pilot easier. Sit yourself in a real Su-27S (or any other 80's bird) and cry. Yes, you will cry. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Eddie Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 b) Too many bells and whistles. I want to fly and think, not just push buttons Except that the one thing they work on the most is to make the job of the pilot easier. Sit yourself in a real Su-27S (or any other 80's bird) and cry. Yes, you will cry. Indeed. The whole point of all those bells and whistles is that they allow you to concentrate on your mission, (ie thinking about the tactical situation and what action to take) rather than just flying/operating the aircraft systems. That said, you can have your 70s/80s bird. I'll take integrated avionics, sensor fusion and reduced pilot workload any day of the week. ;)
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