Azrayen Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hello Guys My team currently runs a dedicated server with LO 1.12. We had to work around some graphical issues, as our server doesn't have a "real" GPU (being a "standart" server, it uses a basic chipset), but it worked "just fine enough" to play on 1.12. - Do the big servers (HL like) you run have a real GPU ? - If No, were you able to run FC2 (or BS, as it's more or less the same thing) ? - If Yes, could you say me who is your server provider ? I tried installing FC2 on our server, but I can't launch the main menu (launcher.exe) (opengl32.dll related error). I know that I don't really need launcher.exe to run a MP game (which needs simulator.exe), but I wanted to check that before purchasing a licence... Thanks by advance for all tips, pieces of advice... :) Cheers Az' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I think you'll get a bit more attention from server admins over here in the MP section, I moved it over here. As for LO1.12 - I cannot speak for that. But for FC2 (server) you'll need a graphics adapter as specified in the minimum specs: http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1322&scr=shop Minimal system requirements: Windows XP, Vista, 7; CPU P4 2 GHz; RAM 2 Gb; Video nVidia/ATI 256 Mb RAM, DirectX9; 6 Gb of free space on HDD; Sound card; Copy protected, requires internet activation. Recommended system requirements: Windows XP, Vista, 7; CPU Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD X2; RAM 3 Gb; Video 512 Mb RAM (ATI Radeon HD4850 or nVidia GF8800), DirectX9; 6 GB of free space on HDD; Sound card; Copy protected, requires internet activation; Joystick. So looking for a provider that can offer you a server within those specs would be wise. :) The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-man Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) - Do the big servers (HL like) you run have a real GPU ? - If No, were you able to run FC2 (or BS, as it's more or less the same thing) ? - If Yes, could you say me who is your server provider ? 51st: - Yes, we run our main server with a Nvidia 7600 GS - Cant help, as we run it from one of our members own house Edited April 19, 2010 by X-man 64th Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 135.181.115.54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato71 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Is any available server in VPS form? Or only hard-boxes? I'm selling MiG-21 activation key. Also selling Suncom F-15E Talon HOTAS with MIDI connectors, several sets. Contact via PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrayen Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) I think you'll get a bit more attention from server admins over here in the MP section, I moved it over here. Whoops, haven't seen this section. Thanks Panzertard :) But for FC2 (server) you'll need a graphics adapter as specified in the minimum specs: http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1322&scr=shop Well, our current server is way under those specs, but also way under the FC1 minimum specs. And it runs FC1. With graphics set to ultra-low (800x600, 16bits, all options down...) I didn't found any provider with "real" GPU servers (at last, with reasonnable price) for the moment. But I still hope :) Anyway, thanks for answering :) @ X-man, thanks for your reply :) We'll perhaps move to house-housing (:D). It has other pro/cons than professional (datacenter) housing, but it's worth a try :) ++ Az' Edited April 19, 2010 by Azrayen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudd Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) I've gone through server providers like underwear.... Trying to find a provider that will give you the set-up you need at an affordable price is difficult. In order to make things price effective most server providers run a blade type setup, where they can fit multiple machines in a rack. More servers in a rack = more savings to you. The only problem is server blades cant fit video cards so... I've also found that most companies that provide both the hardware and the location at affordable prices tend to either suck at support or have shoddy hardware, or often times both. IMHO the best way to host a server is buy your own machine and either co-locate at a data center or host at your home. if your looking to co-locate in the states, PM 104th_PoleCat. I dont know anyone who is co-locating outside of the US... maybe talk to someone from =4c=? Edited April 19, 2010 by Fudd The code is probaly in Russian anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudd Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 But for FC2 (server) you'll need a graphics adapter as specified in the minimum specs: http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1322&scr=shop You can get away using on board graphics as long as they allow direct draw and 3D acceleration and also AGP texture acceleration. If your running an old nVidia 7300LE with 128 onboard, like we were for a while, you just need to turn the graphics all the way down and run it windowed 800x600. Also zooming in on map view or into the sky on airfield view will help. The code is probaly in Russian anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Yes, you can "get away" with it - but what if the next patch changes how the game works, dx9 changes etc - and your hardware isn't supported anymore. Wouldn't it be smarted to try to at least stick with the officially supported specs? :) The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudd Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Yes, you can "get away" with it - but what if the next patch changes how the game works, dx9 changes etc - and your hardware isn't supported anymore. Wouldn't it be smarted to try to at least stick with the officially supported specs? :) :D 1 The code is probaly in Russian anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 :argue: :D 1 The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00t74 Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 I am trying to work with biggameserver.com now for this will let you know sounds like they may do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudd Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 We've worked with them before. Its not a good idea to tell them I sent you. :D 1 The code is probaly in Russian anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Our server runs GIGABYTE GV-R465OC-1GI Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit GDDR2. It not a very good card but it is good enough for DX 9.0 and for FC. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 (edited) My home server run Q9550 8GB with SLI 8800 GTS and Windows R2.. for testing purpose.. i have to try to get this admin .. 60 down 20up Edited April 20, 2010 by theGozr Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 We've worked with them before. Its not a good idea to tell them I sent you. :D Oh Dear No......Not a Good idea at all! :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrayen Posted April 20, 2010 Author Share Posted April 20, 2010 Trying to find a provider that will give you the set-up you need at an affordable price is difficult. Yep, I must agree :) I've also found that most companies that provide both the hardware and the location at affordable prices tend to either suck at support or have shoddy hardware, or often times both. A pity. Anyway, I'll try to find the best compromise. Being an IT (functional) admin, I'm also contacting my professional network. if your looking to co-locate in the states, PM 104th_PoleCat. Thanks, but I would prefer an european housing, for ping and support opening hours issues. I am trying to work with biggameserver.com now for this will let you know sounds like they may do it. OK, thanks :) Our server runs GIGABYTE GV-R465OC-1GI Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit GDDR2. It not a very good card but it is good enough for DX 9.0 and for FC. Thanks for the data, Veljko :) Do you know if it is installed at home or in a datacenter ? Cheers Az' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Thanks for the data, Veljko :) Do you know if it is installed at home or in a datacenter ? Cheers Az' The card was installed in the data center for a small fee. We first confirmed that the data center was willing to install our video card. Then we purchased the card and shipped it to them. One video card already failed. So this is the second card in the past year. Bear in mind the server runs 24 h a day ... Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino104 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Could anyone from the 104th speak as to what your server's specs are? What kind of backbone are you on (speeds)? Looks like the server is hosted somewhere in the Northeast US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51GRIZZLY Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Another reason you might need a card for 2.0 is that we had to change the desctop res. from 1024X768 to 1280X1024 (pic) and we found out the reason is that if you force 2.0 to run lower then 1024X768 (like 800x600) the screen will be clipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemises Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Could anyone from the 104th speak as to what your server's specs are? What kind of backbone are you on (speeds)? Looks like the server is hosted somewhere in the Northeast US? The server is hosted in LA (West Coast, USA), and I believe is 10Mb up and down. I'll ask someone to pop the spec's here for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudd Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) Another reason you might need a card for 2.0 is that we had to change the desctop res. from 1024X768 to 1280X1024 (pic) and we found out the reason is that if you force 2.0 to run lower then 1024X768 (like 800x600) the screen will be clipped. Its still not a necessity. We ran DCS 800 x 600 you just need to be able to push buttons. Also servman made most of the process autonomous so clipping didnt matter. Edit One other thing thats super important is the OS your using. I recommend staying away from Server OS's due to the fact that it takes a fair amount of tech knowledge to get the machine to perform as a desktop. Also some remote admin programs will not work on Server OS's without purchasing a license which will cost you $$$$ Edited April 21, 2010 by Fudd The code is probaly in Russian anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleCat Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) 104th Server specs are: Intel 965GF C2D E6600 2GB DDR2 1066 memory Windows XP Pro x86 (upgrading to Win7 x64 shortly) Raid 1 mirror for OS, apps and games and single SATA backup drive. Low end Nvidia card (not much needed for server all settings low) On board Sound card (not used or needed) Probably will upgrade the hardware this year although we have had no problems using this box as a server for the last 2+ years. Hosted in LA as Nem said. 100Mb backbone though not 10Mb Out Edited April 24, 2010 by PoleCat 1 http://www.104thphoenix.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Case Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Its still not a necessity. We ran DCS 800 x 600 you just need to be able to push buttons. Also servman made most of the process autonomous so clipping didnt matter.For FC2.0 we found that due to the clipping some buttons weren't accessible, and the scoreboard was very hard to read. In the end it's just a matter of preference, but since we wanted to have both the game and parts of the desktop visible we settled for running it at 1024x768 with the desktop at 1280x1024. There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoleCat Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 For FC2.0 we found that due to the clipping some buttons weren't accessible' date=' and the scoreboard was very hard to read. In the end it's just a matter of preference, but since we wanted to have both the game and parts of the desktop visible we settled for running it at 1024x768 with the desktop at 1280x1024.[/quote'] Same for us. Seems the best compromise. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino104 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 104th Server specs are: Intel 965GF C2D E6600 2GB DDR2 1066 memory Windows XP Pro x86 (upgrading to Win7 x64 shortly) Raid 1 mirror for OS, apps and games and single SATA backup drive. Low end Nvidia card (not much needed for server all settings low) On board Sound card (not used or needed) Probably will upgrade the hardware this year although we have had no problems using this box as a server for the last 2+ years. Hosted in LA as Nem said. 100Mb backbone thought not 10Mb Out Thanks Pole. I've got a bunch of loose computer parts hanging around, I may try to get a 4u rackmount and put something together. We (VBA) had a dedicated server before with similar specs as above, but our server was moved and moved onto a less than stellar box that really sucked and thus dropped it. Bottom line, its something we're looking into again. Thanks again for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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