ED Team Yo-Yo Posted September 6, 2010 ED Team Posted September 6, 2010 question re flight model: is it modelled that the plane flips if you apply too much rudder ? cheers, NotiA10 Of course YES... we did not tried to model this EFFECT. It's the model intrinsic property and it was very surprising for the testers... somebody said that it's weird :) 2 Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
VMFA117_Poko Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Of course YES... we did not tried to model this EFFECT. It's the model intrinsic property and it was very surprising for the testers... somebody said that it's weird :)Wow! :thumbup: That's a nice story. Great to know.
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted September 6, 2010 ED Team Posted September 6, 2010 How many people are working on the flight model? You can take a look at the credits for DCS BS but just in case - AFM-2 flight dynamics and the main flight systems like engines, hydro, fuel is being made only by two persons. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
Poor mans sniper Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Of course YES... we did not tried to model this EFFECT. It's the model intrinsic property and it was very surprising for the testers... somebody said that it's weird :) :mad: I always use the rudder for turns!!!
VMFA117_Poko Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 :mad: I always use the rudder for turns!!! And you use full rudder to turn?
Eddie Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 :mad: I always use the rudder for turns!!! Well then you'll have to learn to fly the hog properly when you get your hands on it. The hog flies like a dream, but only if you put in the time and effort required to learn it's handling characteristics and flight envelope.
VMFA117_Poko Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) Can't wait to see next Producer's Note... :) Edited September 6, 2010 by Poko24 1
Bucic Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Seeing those big ailerons I start to think about how they solved the adverse yaw effect... Differential ailerons or something different? F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Avilator Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 Seeing those big ailerons I start to think about how they solved the adverse yaw effect... Differential ailerons or something different? Active/automatic coordination from the yaw SAS channels. And then your feet when the fancy auto stuff stops working. I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
leafer Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 You can take a look at the credits for DCS BS but just in case - AFM-2 flight dynamics and the main flight systems like engines, hydro, fuel is being made only by two persons. Where do you find time to walk to dog? :D Seriously, I always knew ED have incredibly talented people. The best in the business. Even Mower think so now. :D :thumbup: ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
BoneDust Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 Where do you find time to walk to dog? :D Seriously, I always knew ED have incredibly talented people. The best in the business. Even Mower think so now. :D :thumbup: Mower can think????? :megalol: 1 Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | Pimax Crystal VR
NotiA10 Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 Of course YES... we did not tried to model this EFFECT. It's the model intrinsic property and it was very surprising for the testers... somebody said that it's weird :) thanks yo-yo, great news. this sim is getting better and more challenging by the minute. honestly cant wait. cheers, :pilotfly: 1 :pilotfly: NotiA10 CoolerMaster HAF RC-932 - Intel Core i7 950 - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R - Kingston DDR3 6GB - Gigabyte Radeon HD 5870 EF 6 Edition - Western Digital 640GB SATA-III - CoolerMaster 700W - TrackIR Pro 4 - Saitek X52 - Saitek Rudder Pedals - Hotas Warthog
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted September 7, 2010 ED Team Posted September 7, 2010 Where do you find time to walk to dog? :D Seriously, I always knew ED have incredibly talented people. The best in the business. Even Mower think so now. :D :thumbup: Unfortunately I lost my dog in 1995... so I have no dog now. But I know that if I had a dog I really would not find time to walk him. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
leafer Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 Everyone stop posting so Yo-Yo can get back to work. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Scabbers Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 anyone remember an atrocious game called USAF. and starting training on the ramp at nellis in a hog? Now where is that speed brakes control again? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Succellus Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) anyone remember an atrocious game called USAF. and starting training on the ramp at nellis in a hog? I remenber but did not own him. Didn t appeal to me at the time, altohught i was already simming. On another note, it seems we will finally have some really nice flying on a civilian game. This seem wondrous. I wish i was born 10 years after when i did so i could live longer to see this evolve, even the sim cockpits are becoming way more affordable, even if not cheaps. Edited September 7, 2010 by Succellus HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Scabbers Posted September 7, 2010 Posted September 7, 2010 it will be nice to have a hog game with a nice fm. and not some piece of crap Now where is that speed brakes control again? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
bfeld Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 You can take a look at the credits for DCS BS but just in case - AFM-2 flight dynamics and the main flight systems like engines, hydro, fuel is being made only by two persons. So, concerning the topic: The flight model. Yo-Yo, you mentioned AFM-2 etc., I hoped to read some news about what's happening in the background, but there was also no word on the new website. I'm not the one who knows how to fly. I'm just very interested in physics engines, dynamics modelling, etc.. Any chance to get some insight about improvements made (like FM and the overall "world physics")? Bye, Torsten
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted September 8, 2010 ED Team Posted September 8, 2010 So, concerning the topic: The flight model. Yo-Yo, you mentioned AFM-2 etc., I hoped to read some news about what's happening in the background, but there was also no word on the new website. I'm not the one who knows how to fly. I'm just very interested in physics engines, dynamics modelling, etc.. Any chance to get some insight about improvements made (like FM and the overall "world physics")? Bye, Torsten If you want to know what differences are in AFM-2 or AFM-M (or something similar names for new FM :) since Ka-50) you can try to search the forum because as far as I remember I wrote some info about it. I try to present the newest featers as I have time for it. There are notes on FM basics at our web site as well. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
Bucic Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 If you want to know what differences are in AFM-2 or AFM-M (or something similar names for new FM :) since Ka-50) you can try to search the forum because as far as I remember I wrote some info about it. I try to present the newest featers as I have time for it. There are notes on FM basics at our web site as well. I didn't find anything except this You are quite right about the FM types except AFM. There are two AFMs now - AFM for Su-25/25T and AFM-M :) for Ka-50. AFM-M has thermodynamics model for engine and highly detailed systems models that allows to consider it the second generation. Looking forward I can say that A-10C in its turn has some improvements in comparison with AFM-M. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
bfeld Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 If you want to know what differences are in AFM-2 or AFM-M (or something similar names for new FM :) since Ka-50) you can try to search the forum because as far as I remember I wrote some info about it. I try to present the newest featers as I have time for it. There are notes on FM basics at our web site as well. Thanks for your answer, I'm looking forward to new information. Regarding your last sentence, maybe you got me wrong: FM basics are clear, I read all the information on the DCS/LockOn/TBS-Sites. I was more relating to improvements since FC2.0 / BS 1.02, like if there are improvements to FM, atmospheric model, radio com. modelling, thermodynamics (thanks Bucic for the citation!). Hydraulic-, electric-, fuelsystem and others were explained in detail for Su-25 and BS, so I was just wondering if something changed, because it was not mentioned on the new website.
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted September 8, 2010 ED Team Posted September 8, 2010 Ok. I can only say that hydraulic, electric and fuel systems were significantly advanced for Ka-50. We are about to add new functionality to the electrical system (you may suggest what it will be). I can say that control surfaces will be reworked to get them more interesting and realistic behaviour in MRFCS. I will not explain details not to spoil effect from the future video and I think the video will be more impressive than my explanations. 1 Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
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