JS Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 So, after getting a new computer set up, I do a clean download of DCS World. I logged into the module manager, expecting it to recognize my account and making my modules available for download. But all I get is the option to buy modules. Do I really need do download all modules from the store site and activate them manually? What is the point of logging in to the module manager with your account then? Or am I missing something?
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) No. As far as I understood that is how it should work... can you "buy" the modules and input the serials, maybe? When I pre purchased the Dora, it showed under add-on modules and had Install button, where it used to say "buy". On the installed tab it showed all acquired licenses and I could copy paste my serial no. EDIT : be sure to use the account from the ED Store(!) Usually it should be the same as Multiplayer log in, but if you used different stores to buy (lock on website before the merge) you might have different. Also check on ED store if you can log in and see your modules. Edited August 10, 2014 by shagrat Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
JS Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) When I click on "buy", all that happens is that a browser window with the store page gets opened. I assume I can just download the modules from there, but it would be much easier to just do it directly from the module manager. Could it be that you need to download at least one module manually, and then the rest gets recognized? I might try that, if nothing else works. EDIT: And sure, I don't reinstall my system very often, so if there was just the standalone DCS World, I'd just do the manual module installation and be done with it. But since there is also a Steam version now, I'm interrested in finding out exactly how the module manager is supposed to work. If there is really a need for manual installation and activation of all the modules, I might just use Steam instead. Edited August 10, 2014 by JS
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 I won't use steam, they will no longer allow ED keys in their Database, so if you bought modules from ED, Steam effectively shunned EDs loyal customers... and if you buy from ED you have ALL your money in the company that develops DCS World... Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
JS Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Yes, I'd prefer using the stand alone to support ED with more money, but if there is really a need for manually downloading and activating every module after a reinstall, I'll rather use Steam, with it's single, simple installation.
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 What I said: you would need to buy ALL modules again through Steam now, unless you already have them integrated in the Steam Database, prior to the change in policies a few months ago! I don't understand, why the module manager in your case doesn't show the modules you acquired under installed, you did deactivate the modules on the old PC, did you? Did you check your account on the website? Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Thinking of it, that might be the original problem! You have to deactivate the modules bound to the old PC Hardware. The ED side may see all your modules as installed on another rig in parallel, which is bound to your account. That means you have too spend another activation on the new rig... always deactivate the installations before upgrading your hardware! Windows also requires new activation after too much change to physical components. (CPU, Mainboard, HDD are usual suspects). God, how much easier life could be without intellectual property wars! Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
JS Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Yes, I have all the existing modules on my Steam account already, so my choice of Steam or standalone would only affect future modules. No, my hard drive on the old computer died, so I did not deactivate the modules on my old computer. Is this something that needs to be done? How do I do that now, when my old installation is gone? My account on the website is ok, all my keys are there. There was also no problem logging in to the Module Manager in DCS World, it's just that the modules don't show up as available for download from there. I'll probably just try to download and activate a single module manually from the web site and see what happens.
JS Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Ok, if you have to do stuff like deactivate the modules on an old computer before installing on a new one (which you'll never get a chance to do if your hard drive dies), then I'm definitely going to go with Steam in the future. No such crap is needed there, just install Steam on the new computer and download all your games again easily. Thanks for your help!
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Good idea. If the HDD died you can only try to use the unbind option on the ED website... problem is I only read about that here. Never used it. In theory it unbinds your key from your account and when input again in DCS is bound to the account which you activate it with. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Maybe you should open a ticket to the ED support and ask about the definite way to handle a HDD crash. You should at least get an activation back. Maybe I'm just missing something. I also thought Module Manager gets all information from the Database and can install and activate your modules on a new PC... Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
JS Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 I don't need the activations back, I checked my account, and I have several activations left for every module. But it seems I am still going to have to download and activate every module manually, which will be quite a hassle. It feels like Steam is so much easier and smoother.
shagrat Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Unless you want to transfer one of your licenses (for a module you no longer fly) to a buddy of yours! In the European Union you have legal decisions on your side, but in the US... you do not own what you buy through Steam. You are allowed to use it as long as Steam does business with you... that alone is a no go for me! Smooth and easy or not. I would rather see ED optimizing the module manager to handle things like 'PC died' in a more convenient way. E.g. let install modules and activate/verify through entering serial no. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Zee Pet Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 What's the procedure for a single engine failure on take off with a combat load when you pass V1? Do we jettison and try to get up, or just eject near the end of the rw? ||i5-9600k||MSI GTX1070Ti Duke||16GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaws V||Gigabyte Aorus B360||X56||
Eddie Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 If you're above refusal speed then you should continue the takeoff, retract gear as soon as positive climb is established. Flaps retraction should be delayed until above 150 KIAS if possible. Once safely airborne continue to climb to a safe altitude and evaluate you options. Stores should only be jettisoned if required to maintain safe flight, and care should be taken to ensure you don't further complicate aircraft handling by jettisoning stores that are balancing out non-jettisonable stores such as ECM pods, AIM-9, TGP.
Zee Pet Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Is there a way of roughly calculating the refusal speed based off of gross weight and runway length? ||i5-9600k||MSI GTX1070Ti Duke||16GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaws V||Gigabyte Aorus B360||X56||
JayPee Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 DCS A-10C QUESTIONS Yeah, mission planning tools... :/ i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
Zee Pet Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 There's a tool in DCS for that?! Wow, I'm missing out on some good stuff then. Thanks for the help guys. ||i5-9600k||MSI GTX1070Ti Duke||16GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaws V||Gigabyte Aorus B360||X56||
JayPee Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 No, there's not. Thats the whole issue... We need a plan tool for things like rotate speeds, abort speeds, fuel management and optimal cruise speeds, delivery planning, threat management, you name it... i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
Zee Pet Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Oh. Whoops. I would have thought a third party would be able to craft something up. Then again, they can't do everything. I shall now consult Google as to if an old timey method is out there. ||i5-9600k||MSI GTX1070Ti Duke||16GB DDR4 G.SKILL Ripjaws V||Gigabyte Aorus B360||X56||
JayPee Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Some of these points are addressed in planning software used by a few vFGs. However they are not (all) released to the public. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
Nirvi Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 No, there's not. Thats the whole issue... We need a plan tool for things like rotate speeds, abort speeds, fuel management and optimal cruise speeds, delivery planning, threat management, you name it... http://ariescon.com/index12.html :) Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos
Snoopy Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 http://ariescon.com/index12.html :) That's a good tool but a true planning tool like what we use real world also loads everything on a cartridge that you take to the jet wth you and uploads that information into the jet. As I I said earlier in another thread a member of the 476th was making just that but he needed a few times fixed or slightly changed but because the A-10C is released and considered "feature complete" ED wouldn't make the changes. And this tool was going to be released to the public. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
JayPee Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Didn't know Ariescon tools were freely available, well try them out as soon as I can. @ Paul R K III, sorry to hear it ended up that way.. Would've been great to see how community attempts like these can broaden and improve the sim. i7 4790K: 4.8GHz, 1.328V (manual) MSI GTX 970: 1,504MHz core, 1.250V, 8GHz memory
Flagrum Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 That's a good tool but a true planning tool like what we use real world also loads everything on a cartridge that you take to the jet wth you and uploads that information into the jet. As I I said earlier in another thread a member of the 476th was making just that but he needed a few times fixed or slightly changed but because the A-10C is released and considered "feature complete" ED wouldn't make the changes. And this tool was going to be released to the public. That is sad. You surely investigated this already, but making the necessary changes on your own - in form of a mod - is not possible/viable?
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