another nail in the coffin of the sim industry

[GGTharos]

Thanks for the support, and -

Not as much as it will rock your target's world :D

 

Thanks for the feedback, but do remember I am only pointing why the BS as a sim does not interest me. I did buy it however to support DCS.

 

The A10C is gonna rock my little world me thinks though...cannot wait for that hardcore beast.

[davek1979]

I just wish there were more "nails" like DCS:BS coming out. :-)

I was posting pretty weird questions around here around April last year, while taming the beast. Also started in Arcade mode and quickly understood Real is REAL! One must love this sim man!

While I'm not holding my breath for any fastmover, I'll sure as hell fly the Hog and keep hoping for Hind or Apache, if not Havoc. :-) Hmmm, Havoc... yummy...

[Steel Jaw]

Hey Davek, who says the Hog aint no fast mover? Just cause it takes bird strikes froom behind? Just cause its speedometer is a clock?

 

LOL

[GGTharos]

Hey, you can fly the A-10C fast enough to break it, probably ... or at least to lose control, so don't knock it! ;)

The Vne is 450kt or M0.75, whichever comes first. After you exceed these you should in theory start noticing control issues.

[aaron886]

You say "after you exceed these" as if you'll ever do that. :D

[sobek]

You say "after you exceed these" as if you'll ever do that. :D

 

You'll be surprised at what an unloaded Hog can do ;)

[aairon]

The only 'immortal' setting I turned on, was for my pilot's logbook, because it was a pain to have to keep recreating it and starting over for reasons not of my fault :)

I keep having reasons not my fault also like sometimes for no apparent reason the ground increases it's altitude and flies up to hit the bottom of my chopper, and occasionally when I am flying along minding my own business a missile comes out of nowhere and since it's right in my flight path I run into it. I am sure this is a defect in the Sim. :cry: but I've only been flying the BS a little over three weeks so I think I can figure out a way soon, to get around these shortcomings with this Sim. Because of this, the average age of my pilots is about one hour. they are all very young.

 

You'll be surprised at what an unloaded Hog can do ;)

Lmao it reminds me of an incident down south when I was visiting some friends, I saw some things that a LOADED hog can do but one of them was not flying, in that context a fully loaded hog can also be VERY dangerous. Edited August 11, 2010 by aairon

[GGTharos]

Already have ;)

 

You say "after you exceed these" as if you'll ever do that. :D

[sweinhart3]

at full power, straight nose down, with nothing on your stations? I could see that. Im sure its possible to overstress any aircraft if you really try.

[GGTharos]

Don't need to be going straight down, don't need to be clean either.

[aairon]

overstress any aircraft if you really try.

 

Yep even hang gliders.

[Eddie]

Don't need to be going straight down, don't need to be clean either.

 

You sure don't. She's a lot faster than you might think, even in level flight with a myriad of ordnance hanging off the wings.

[Speed]

Thanks for the feedback, but do remember I am only pointing why the BS as a sim does not interest me. I did buy it however to support DCS.

 

The A10C is gonna rock my little world me thinks though...cannot wait for that hardcore beast.

 

I bet I will be able to rack up kills faster with the Ka-50 than with the A-10. You get 12 vikhrs, that usually means you can kill 12 tanks, plus what ever you can get with your rockets and cannons every time you go out. With the A-10, you have to get dangerously close to employ guns (since you have to fly at the enemies to shoot them), and can you pack 12 guarenteed tank kills on the A-10? I'm just curious, can you? Maybe if you tank plink with GBU-12s, load up your other stations with mavericks, but how many weapons total does that give you? Since the A-10 carries more POWERFUL weapons but fewer, it might have an advantage when attacking heavily armored tanks that require 2 vikhrs to kill.

[beers]

Can't you guys keep a conversation going for more than a few pages without digressing to your dreams of A-10??? Weren't we having fun with a new guy.

[sobek]

Not in the age of short attention sp... hey, a nude chick *off* :D

[sweinhart3]

I bet I will be able to rack up kills faster with the Ka-50 than with the A-10. You get 12 vikhrs, that usually means you can kill 12 tanks, plus what ever you can get with your rockets and cannons every time you go out. With the A-10, you have to get dangerously close to employ guns (since you have to fly at the enemies to shoot them), and can you pack 12 guarenteed tank kills on the A-10? I'm just curious, can you? Maybe if you tank plink with GBU-12s, load up your other stations with mavericks, but how many weapons total does that give you? Since the A-10 carries more POWERFUL weapons but fewer, it might have an advantage when attacking heavily armored tanks that require 2 vikhrs to kill.

 

Ive put a lot of practice in A-10A gun strafes of tanks in FC2. I dunno ifits just me, but to get 1 tank kill with requires several attack runs and 1/3 to 1/2 of my cannon rounds. Other vehicles usually only take 1 no more than 2 attack runs to kill. Still I have to get close enough most of the time that they get shots off at me first. APCs are rather deadly. KA-50 is much better at sniping these sort of things at stand off range.

[159th_Viper]

I bet I will be able to rack up kills faster with the Ka-50 than with the A-10. You get 12 vikhrs, that usually means you can kill 12 tanks, plus what ever you can get with your rockets and cannons every time you go out. With the A-10, you have to get dangerously close to employ guns (since you have to fly at the enemies to shoot them), and can you pack 12 guarenteed tank kills on the A-10? I'm just curious, can you? Maybe if you tank plink with GBU-12s, load up your other stations with mavericks, but how many weapons total does that give you? Since the A-10 carries more POWERFUL weapons but fewer, it might have an advantage when attacking heavily armored tanks that require 2 vikhrs to kill.

 

Realistic mission-dynamic aside, if you line them up in a Shooting-Range scenario, you're going to be killing a helluva lot more than the Shark.......but that's besides the point.

 

It's the finesse whereby you dispatch your victims with the Hog that does it for me. Given a Kill-Box, you can sort Gophers from Skunks and blast a pimple off a fly's backside and all from 20000'+ AGL......and when the pain finally sets in on the ground, you're well-far away, admiring the destruction in relative comfort. Apart from MERAD/LORAD systems, nothing ruffles the Hog.

[aairon]

I like this convo/debate a lot better:lol:

[GGTharos]

I bet you'd be wondering why that laser warning is coming from above... :D

 

I bet I will be able to rack up kills faster with the Ka-50 than with the A-10. You get 12 vikhrs, that usually means you can kill 12 tanks, plus what ever you can get with your rockets and cannons every time you go out. With the A-10, you have to get dangerously close to employ guns (since you have to fly at the enemies to shoot them), and can you pack 12 guarenteed tank kills on the A-10? I'm just curious, can you? Maybe if you tank plink with GBU-12s, load up your other stations with mavericks, but how many weapons total does that give you? Since the A-10 carries more POWERFUL weapons but fewer, it might have an advantage when attacking heavily armored tanks that require 2 vikhrs to kill.

[ZEbbEDY]

jesus christ i just read all 25 pages

 

TOTY!!

[EtherealN]

Speed,

 

Mavs for SHORAD, GAU-8 for tanks, AIM-9's for KA-50's. ;)

[spyda]

well done i read the first 2 that was enough for me, with out spoiling the ending i hope the newbe found satisfaction lol

[ChromeWasp]

I put my system back to 1680x1050 and now it runs at 20-32 fps

plus I can read the instruments and the hud now

much better :-)

[bumfire]

Actually the WAH-64 doesn't have all that much engine power superiority over the 64D ... it got upgrades too, IIRC.

 

And, as far as I am aware, they cannot goto max power, they are limited in the amount of power they apply simply because the engines are too powerful for the gearbox, or some other part of the helo.

 

So although it has more powerful engines, the extra power goes unused.

 

Whether that has changed I do not know, but in Ed macy's book if I recall, he mentions the fact that they are limited in the amount of power they apply because of the damage that can be caused because of it.

[GGTharos]

Probably upgraded too, but I don't really know.