KungFuCharlie Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 Not sure if this has been asked yet (I cannot find it) but are there plans for a mission conversion tool that will convert FC2 missions to A-10C missions? I know the new editor is vastly improved and the map is larger but there should still be a way to map the locations of units from the old map to the new map as well as bring in the triggers and such. Any info on this one?
Grimes Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 I'm just guessing. But I'll assume that the mission file format will be the same if not similar only with the added extras capable of being built in. So missions can be loaded just fine as they are already a standard that is compatible in A10C. When FC2 was released I was able to load and modify missions created in DCS:Ka-50 just fine. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
CAT_101st Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 But DCS:A-10C has an updated game engin witch is not the same as FC2 and DCS:BS. Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/
Oscar Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 I would think, given all the "new" functionality of the ME that this would be a daunting task.... Even after you converted it, you'd still need to edit the mission in the ME to incorporate features not available in FC2. Steer points are going to be suspect and probably need adjusting, then you're going to want to take advantage of new functionality in the ground AI units and comunications (JTAC) functions, and triggers, etc, etc. I think its a possible thing to do, but, I don't see a lot of return on the effort to make such a conversion tool. After all, once you've you converted your 5-10 missions, (don't see this being used for campaigns...) what are you going to do with the tool then? Sounds like a lot of hairy knuckle-dragging work to me for very little return. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
HiJack Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 I would think, given all the "new" functionality of the ME that this would be a daunting task.... Even after you converted it, you'd still need to edit the mission in the ME to incorporate features not available in FC2. Steer points are going to be suspect and probably need adjusting, then you're going to want to take advantage of new functionality in the ground AI units and comunications (JTAC) functions, and triggers, etc, etc. I think its a possible thing to do, but, I don't see a lot of return on the effort to make such a conversion tool. After all, once you've you converted your 5-10 missions, (don't see this being used for campaigns...) what are you going to do with the tool then? Sounds like a lot of hairy knuckle-dragging work to me for very little return. Month's of work is put in to missions and campaigns, so you say that this is not worth keeping? That it's more usefull to use new month's and do it all again?
Oscar Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) No, that's not what I was saying. I'm saying that because it appears - from the information we've received so far - that there are so many differencies between FC2 and DCS:WH, it "may" be easier just to rebuild them. I would only have 2-3 A-10 missions that I 'might' want to consider bringing over. From my perspective it will be easier to just recreate them and take advantage of 'all' the new features. That it's more usefull to use new month's and do it all again? You may spend those months going back and editing your 'converted' missions anyway. Its going to take a few months for 'someone' to go through the fustration of creating and testing the conversion tool. By that time, I will have already rebuilt my missions and I won't need it. But hey, that's just my opinion. Edited September 8, 2010 by Oscar 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
HiJack Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 You may be right but I hope someone with good knowledge of reading text files find it challenging to create a tool that reads FC2 (and for that sake FC1) missions and publishes some sort of "basic" mission in the new DCS mission engine. Its all just textfiles ;)
Bucic Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 Its all just textfiles ;) DCS code is also just a text file :D F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
HitchHikingFlatlander Posted September 8, 2010 Posted September 8, 2010 I would have to agree with other (my own opinion) that it would just be easier to build a new mission utilizing the new features. Of course I'm not the type of builder that spends a week let alone a month on a mission, so that said, I understand those concerns too. http://dcs-mercenaries.com/ USA Squad
KungFuCharlie Posted September 10, 2010 Author Posted September 10, 2010 Converting a mission should be pretty simple. Its just a matter of updating the tags and their content from the old version to the new if there are any changes to that tag. The main thing that I saw as a problem is the map changing to a larger area... will the coordinates used in the editor be the same for the locations so nothing changes or will they have to be adjusted? And no... it would not be easier to just make them over again if you spend a great deal of time on each mission and you have a campaign set of 20-30 missions divided up into multiple stages. :)
159th_Viper Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 .......should be pretty simple...... Famous last words! :P Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
sinelnic Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Famous last words! :P Nono it´s "It should be pretty simple and absolutely transparent to the User" :megalol: Westinghouse W-600 refrigerator - Corona six-pack - Marlboro reds - Patience by Girlfriend "Engineering is the art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyse so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance." (Dr. A. R. Dykes - British Institution of Structural Engineers, 1976)
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