hassata Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 Will this unit be sufficiently used to justify putting in place a desktop-pit equivalent? If so, could a non-programble keyboard be used, or would the qwerty setup play havoc with key assignments? (Pic courtesy of y2kiah). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Scabbers Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 That is the CDU(Control Display Unit) I wouldnt think a non programmable key board would work unless all of the key assignments for the CDU were programmable in the options page. I was under the assumption that interaction was going to be throught he MFD CDU page. Now where is that speed brakes control again? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Avilator Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 I know that there is some capability to interact with the CDU from the MFDs and UFC, but I don't know the extent of that interaction. It's probably up to your realism goal if you're gonna put in or not. I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
Scabbers Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 The CDU is really where all of your flight parameters are set/Viewed (IE RAD ALT settings, IFF Sqwaks and modes, GPS Displays, Com Settings for Data Bus systems) Now where is that speed brakes control again? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
CrashEd Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 The CDU is really where all of your flight parameters are set/Viewed (IE RAD ALT settings, IFF Sqwaks and modes, GPS Displays, Com Settings for Data Bus systems) And also your flight plan, iirc. It's function is similar in principle to that of an airliner CDU, I believe. It would be great if it is modelled closely to that of the real thing.
Avilator Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 And also your flight plan, iirc. It's function is similar in principle to that of an airliner CDU, I believe. It would be great if it is modelled closely to that of the real thing. That is true as well. The flight plan can be loaded during the startup, as hinted in the 2nd producer's note. IDK if it can be edited at the UFC or MFDs. I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
power5 Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 Hopefully there is a way to designate another keyboard for all the functions it has, or it would obviously interfere with the normal KB bindings. Unless maybe the caps lock could be used to enable the main KB to switch over to the CDU stuff. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109
hassata Posted September 15, 2010 Author Posted September 15, 2010 If it would work, I was thinking of getting this: http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/store/mini-keyboards/product/ultra-mini-low-light-keyboard/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Avilator Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 I hope you can dim that backlight. If you can, that will look bada$$ in a simpit environment. I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
herr_LaSk Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 I believe all the functionality of the CDU can be replicated using the MFDs and UFCP.
CrashEd Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 If key bindings are given for the CDU I may have to dig out my old Tipro programmable keyboard that I used for Falcon. Haven't used that for years!
hassata Posted September 15, 2010 Author Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) The Tipro mid (with lcd!) looks pretty sweet. Also a bunch of good stuff on EBay (http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=mini+keyboards). Hope one of the beta testers or someone from ED chimes in. My purchase finger is getting itchy lol. What about this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Remote-Control-L5-/110586675918?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19bf7ac2ce#ht_7615wt_1158 Edited September 15, 2010 by hassata [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Avilator Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) What about this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Remote-Control-L5-/110586675918?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19bf7ac2ce#ht_7615wt_1158 Almost complete CDU for 10 bucks if you can export it to the screen. EDIT: Oh, that's a trackpad. Derp...:doh: Edited September 15, 2010 by Avilator I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
hassata Posted September 15, 2010 Author Posted September 15, 2010 http://www.posworld.com/elo-1537l-lcd-kiosk-touch-screen.html Something like this may work if SCS include a CDU in Helios [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Deadman Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 For that price i will build something https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Flim Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 I have the FMS already finished in 3d for Helios, all I need is DCS A-10!! Again, the hp 2105tm or the Acer 23 incher-- about $250-300.
CrashEd Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 The Tipro mid (with lcd!) looks pretty sweet. Also a bunch of good stuff on EBay (http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=mini+keyboards). Hope one of the beta testers or someone from ED chimes in. My purchase finger is getting itchy lol. [/url] Yep, it's the Tipro MID-KM128A that I've got. Mines in Black rather than 'PC brown' :D Damn it, I'm gonna dig that out tonight and create an A-10 overlay for it. Or, I could buy another one for A-10C and keep my existing one for Falcon. Shame they don't do a USB version otherwise I could be tempted... Hmmm... No, common sense is kicking in. Need cash for TM Warthog! :doh: Paper and scissors it is :D Good news regarding Helios, Flim. I'm eagerly awaiting to see some more info on this. .
hassata Posted September 16, 2010 Author Posted September 16, 2010 Flim-does it look like we'll be able to use a regular non-programable keyboard to control the CDU/FMS? And do you think an 8 inch lcd would be large enough for just the Helios CDU/FMS? Thanks, and hope the back feels better soon. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Oscar Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 If Flim creates the CDU in Helios, why would you need a (external) keyboard/keypad? I would think it would be keyed to send alpha/numerics via the touchscreen to the game just like the in-game CDU - or (as yet to be determined) via the MFD. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Flim Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 If Flim creates the CDU in Helios, why would you need a (external) keyboard/keypad? I would think it would be keyed to send alpha/numerics via the touchscreen to the game just like the in-game CDU - or (as yet to be determined) via the MFD. Exactly, I will have the entire Right console on the touchscreen. The CDU will look like the mfd's in our video. I'm pretty certain that we will have access to the cdu data (dcs) in which we will be able to place it behind the virtual CDU bezel. Easy, Cheap, and fully functional.
hassata Posted September 16, 2010 Author Posted September 16, 2010 I was just checking to see if a simple keyboard could work as an interim solution on its own. Would you say that a 7" or 8" screen is enough for the CDU if I go that route? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
CrashEd Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 If Flim creates the CDU in Helios, why would you need a (external) keyboard/keypad? I would think it would be keyed to send alpha/numerics via the touchscreen to the game just like the in-game CDU - or (as yet to be determined) via the MFD. Because I already have it and it will therefore cost me nothing :D Seriously though, I think the whole touch screen idea is great. I still like the tactile feel of keys though. However, saying that I do like my iPhone interface. I think the fact that there is a sound coupled with the keypress helps to give a pseudo tactile 'feel'. Flim> Do you have any links to the tochscreen supplier that you used? Is it something we can buy direct from SCS? I see so many people posting links to touch screens and other LCDs and invariably they are the wrong device for the job. Would be interested to see what you guys have used.
Flim Posted September 16, 2010 Posted September 16, 2010 I have been using the Acer 23 inch touch and the HP 2105tm. Both work really well and are 1980*1050 res.
CrashEd Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 I have been using the Acer 23 inch touch and the HP 2105tm. Both work really well and are 1980*1050 res. Thanks Flim. They look pretty good and at an affordable price too. Looking forward to seeing more info on the SCS setup :)
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