Mr.Fenestron Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) From the pictures, it looks like the TM WH throttle is just too wide. I think the only truly viable solution would be to remove the outer enclosure that the throttle sits in, as well as the electronics and fabricate a custom cover and platforms for the electronics to sit upon (think upside down pyramid). DM, could you post those measurements you had received from the other member regarding the dimensions of the TM HW throttle base? Edited September 10, 2015 by Mr.Fenestron
Deadman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Posted September 11, 2015 To design some thing that fits both the TM Warthog Throttle and the Left console. You would need the throttles measurements with out the housing and my console's measurements. That i am not releasing at this time . Do to the width and length of the Throttle LASTE panel combination of the TH WH the only modification that may work is an above the console design that would look some thing like sitting the throttle flat on the console. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Hansolo Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I am probably not reading this right Gordy, but the height you are referring to? Is that the throttle you mean? The LASTE panel is very small. cheers Hans 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
weeb Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 Yeah I totally got that wrong, I didn't mean the laste panel, I meant the fuel panel above the throttle, thats what happens when you type on an empty head. No more tequila for me. :doh: Windows 7 64 Home Premium, i5 3570K (3.4 @ 4.4GHz), Asus P8Z77-V LX, 16GB dual channel 1600 ram, EVGA Nvidia GTX980ti, 240 GB OCZ SSD, 3 TB Raptor, Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas and Throttle, Saitek Pro Combat Rudder pedals.
Duckling Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) I see. The real warthog throttle assembly is very difficult to acquire, as is most other A-10 cockpit components. I will look into the disassembly, perhaps the throttle mechanical actuation mechanisms can be separated from the electrical components. While this would void the warranty, I see no other way if the TM Hotas is to be used... Real Throttle assy outside dims are aprox 140mm (width) x 180mm (lenght) with bolt to fasten it from front and back side through the real frame. The TM WT with Laste panel cut of, and the metal sideplates removed is close to 146mm width and 186mm length (in my case). I removed the TM Laste PCB and cut of that complete part from rest of the throttle. Managed to squeze it down in my frame. I got 148 mm inside dims of each 'rail'. The new assembly was then fasten with bolts from underneath, through the TM WT bottom metal plate, inte the rails of the frame. Only part except the Laste PCB that needs to be interfaced with other means is the 'Horn Silence' button that is connected to the same Laste PCB. A bit rough but it works fine. If DMs true panel inside dims fit the TMWT (or can be adjusted), it could be a solution if not the real throttle is to be used (and warranty is no were to be found after that :music_whistling:) Edited September 13, 2015 by Duckling - - - -
Deadman Posted September 13, 2015 Author Posted September 13, 2015 I am in the process of a rebuild of the left and right consoles. The TMWH throttle may just fit if Gus's measurements are the norm. I will post when I know. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
7rooper Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Cool! My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR
Deadman Posted September 13, 2015 Author Posted September 13, 2015 Gus do you have any pictures of the bottom of the throttle installed? Do you all so have the lay out of the bolt placement for the TMWH Throttle? https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
weeb Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Mine is mounted, what do you need, length, breadth and diagonal :thumbup: Windows 7 64 Home Premium, i5 3570K (3.4 @ 4.4GHz), Asus P8Z77-V LX, 16GB dual channel 1600 ram, EVGA Nvidia GTX980ti, 240 GB OCZ SSD, 3 TB Raptor, Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas and Throttle, Saitek Pro Combat Rudder pedals.
Mr_Burns Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Duckling you cut a WH Hotas in half - dedicated!! Respect.
Deadman Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 I got home and the wife had picked me up a little surprise for the ACES II. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Hansolo Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Respect. +1 Nice DM. Congratulations :thumbup: Cheers Hans 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
Deadman Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 Ya have to love a woman that supports a crazy hobby. Now if I just had time to work on the beast. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Duckling Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Gus do you have any pictures of the bottom of the throttle installed? Do you all so have the lay out of the bolt placement for the TMWH Throttle? It's a very crude work on the throttle but it works. The Laste quad is cut of at the detent where the 'lightpanel' ends. The base bottom metal plate and side plates was removed to squize down the dims of the package. Prior that the PCB of the LASTE and connecting cable was removed ofc, very easy to do. The cable to the 'Horn Silence' button is connected to the Laste PCB and now patched to one of my IOCard inputs instead. The remaining metal base was cut in rear ;-) to leave a flange (front and aft) to bolt up into the frame in to prepared place. Fixated the top of the throttle case to the metal plate base also to eliminate the flex, a requirement when the mateal sides is removed. Can one way to enable the possibility to use either real throttle or the TMWT be to build a module for each that fit the true frame size ? A bit 'LEGO' and not sure if the width of the rightmost 'lane' can fit the slight wider TMWT without extrude into the hub. /Gus Edit: Ky, congrats to the seat cover ;-) Edited September 21, 2015 by Duckling - - - -
Aries Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Ya have to love a woman that supports a crazy hobby. Now if I just had time to work on the beast. You're a lucky, lucky man... :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining...
linden Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Very impressive Deadman, thanks for sharing.
Mr.Fenestron Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 DM, Nice cover. Ducking, that is almost exactly how I invisioned it in my head, very cool. Nice job. I just may ditch the real A model throttle and use a TM WH instead.
Duckling Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 @A10C-Wolf, thanks, but please don't ditch it ;-) Know earlier A mod throttles both handles and linkage needs "some" work to be useful. The feeling of the real throttle is something extra but TMWT do make it a lot easier though, as I'm sure you found out already. Did see some pics years back of the real handle restauration/upgrade but don't remember where (could been here in DMs thread but can't say). DM might know - - - -
Deadman Posted September 21, 2015 Author Posted September 21, 2015 Those pictures are in Red's dead thread on the phone So I can't post a link https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Hansolo Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 This should be a good place to start; http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1196549&postcount=118 Cheers Hans 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
Deadman Posted September 21, 2015 Author Posted September 21, 2015 Yes that is it. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Deadman Posted September 24, 2015 Author Posted September 24, 2015 there is a 149 mm wide space for the throttle the space was widened for several reasons from the original width. For the WH throttle to fit it will need to be cut to the length of the throttle. If some one want to just put the complete throttle in it will take a bit more conversion do to the length of the throttle LASTE panel combination I have not seen any one else posting they have to have the set up for the WH throttle what do you guys want? https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Mr.Fenestron Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Honestly, IF you can DM, please do. Anyway, I second the motion for the TM WH integration. Even though I own a real Throttle, the TM WH setup is still high quality hardware.
Ragtop Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 I'm sure most users would intend to buy pre made hardware where they can. If a "nearly as good" solution exists I'd probably build to accommodate that. Especially where an A-10C HOTAS isn't easy to come across for many people. 476th vFG Alumni
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