Deadman's A-10 C Cockpit Build

[Deadman]

Hi Ghostraider

 

First I do all of my drawing because I have the real items here for the most part I have had to reverse engineer the Main Instrument panel several times.

Now if I added in to that some one else doing the drawing i have just doubled the time involved . Take the measurements send them and pictures to some one double check every thing send and changes back and forth.

Most likely the project would never finish as an example that was tried on the VP forms the member doing all of the drawing has gotten busy with making money to pay his bills. The site has been up for some thing like 12 years with out a complete set of drawing for builder to work off of .

 

Then there is the fact that I sell high quality replicas (an exact copy or model of something) so you may need to sand the bottom of a knob or drill the center and set screw holes for it ( lower the finish price) but you don't need to fill a bunch of bubble holes in it surface.

 

Not every one has the same standard as I do nor do I expect them to this is just what I do it is what I want to purchase if I get a part for my project.

 

 

I sell products from time to time I provide the best quality at the best price I can wile still helping to pay for what I have purchased and keep the reserve for purchasing new things. I have been very open about that, I have separate threads covering my build/rebuild of the trainer (i was lucky enough to purchase) and my products that I sell.

 

I am a professional parts maker ( I am paid for parts I sell) now, and so others are my competition and there is no reason for me to give away information to other professional builder ( they are paid for their products) for free. They have the responsibility to do research for the parts or purchase real parts to copy to sell the sim builders.

 

I rarely post specific information on the web do to past experiences where all of a sudden some one is making and selling a part based on one of my pictures of an answer to some ones question.

 

I have found this to be a great disservice to the community. Usually the person makes one item or several sells the items and then quits selling. Then possibly quits the forms then the purchasers are stuck with items that will not all fit together with other parts to complete the cockpit or they may never receive what they have all ready paid for.

 

I would not purchase form any of the other panel or parts makers do to the prices and their dimensions are off. I have to many real parts to fight gettin a copy to fit.

 

Any one that post and tells you all that if enough parts are made then the price comes down has no idea of how few A-10C pit builder there are. That formula works great for mass produce and sold cell phones not for custom made parts.

 

sorry if I have rambled on I actually have a fairly good cold at the moment and I have all ways hated cold meds so home made Slivovitz from the EU

may have made me do it

[MacFevre]

OK DM, let's hear some more about the brandy! :D You and viruses have just not gotten along lately. Get well soon. I'll send you a couple pics from either the Queen's or King's parade during Mardi Gras, whichever one we decide to go to. Maybe both! ;) You know, just to cheer you up. It'll be good to get out of the snow we're getting here in New England. It's getting old.

[Deadman]

Tastes like gas but it is over 50 ABV so it kills every thing

[Ghostraider]

O.K Deadman I see its your passion to do this. Thanks for the patience about my Question and...

 

How to get the plans or Part from you, or do have a contact person in the EU ?

 

Because when i buy Parts in the USA the half or fom the Price is shipping, custom duties and tax that a b......t. But good work and quality cost

 

P.S. Taste a good beer from Germany and you feel better ( or not )

[Deadman]

Hi Ghostraider your questions are now bordering on the ridiculous.

 

I am one guy that when he has time makes a mold or a casting of what people want for their pits.

So an EU distributor well it just makes no scents.

 

Any thing you purchase in the EU is going to have a VAT when ever you order any thing from out side the EU get hammered with duties postage and everything else that is the way it is.

 

Never drink beer when your sick just spirits.

 

I have had and like many German beers but the Czech beers are my favorite Velkopopovický Kozel and Krusovice being two of my favorites cheers Prost.

 

I have contacted on of my friends in the EU and he will build a pit off of the current design. to work out the assembly and any design bugs.

 

My criterion for the design

a replica

No CNC requires

Mostly made of wood with some parts made out of sheet aluminum

Edited February 17, 2015 by Deadman

[Deadman]

Hey guys I need a bit of a favor. I need to modify the pedestal that holds the TISL panel and Circuit breaker panel. Every one is using different rudder pedals if I can get a few measurments perhaps i can make a univerasl cut out on the back side to allow pedal placement. any volunteers ?

[Sabre-TLA]

Hi Deadman,

 

Here are the measurements I have for my Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals:

 

Width 16", Length 12.5" Height 7"

 

I have my pedals angled so the Height to the top of the pedals is 10"

 

The space that I have for the rudders is 23 3/4" wide by 18" long so there is plenty of room to fit new pedals in.

 

This likely won't match your pit specs as my instrument panel is wider than spec to accommodate my LCD TV and USB Monitor. I run Helios for my gauges currently.

 

Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help.

 

Thanks.

[Deadman]

Hey thanks for the quick reply. How far apart are the pedals?

[Sabre-TLA]

I measured 8.5 inches. They narrow in the middle but I measured between the 2 closest points.

 

Here is a diagram to help you out.

[cichlidfan]

Hi DM,

 

I checked my Saitek Combat pedals against this drawing.

 

http://www.saitek.com/uk/down/Saitek_proflight_CRP_dimensions.pdf

 

My pedals are not easy to measure while they are mounted but I think these numbers are solid.

[Deadman]

in the words of the KING s**t, s**t, s**t, f**k, f**k, f**k, how am I going to get those behind the pedestal ?

 

Thanks cichlidfan that will help I may need to make a plane so you guys can cut a bit of card board to see if it will work.

[cichlidfan]

in the words of the KING s**t, s**t, s**t, f**k, f**k, f**k, how am I going to get those behind the pedestal ?

 

Thanks cichlidfan that will help I may need to make a plane so you guys can cut a bit of card board to see if it will work.

 

You should be aware that the combat pedals have a removable (no tools) footrest at the front. The area marked in yellow is the footrest.

[Deadman]

Thanks for the heads up

[LynxDK]

in the words of the KING s**t, s**t, s**t, f**k, f**k, f**k, how am I going to get those behind the pedestal ?

 

Thanks cichlidfan that will help I may need to make a plane so you guys can cut a bit of card board to see if it will work.

 

 

Maybe instead of having that wallplate in the front of the cockpit, you can leave it open i, that way you can push the pedals right in from there.

 

At least thats what we intend to do. as you can see on our very first Construction.

 

www.lynx.dk/pictures/forum/01.jpg

 

Best Regards

LynxDK

[Hansolo]

@LynxDK, that won't really be possible as Deadman is making drawings for a replica based upon the fact that he has a A-10 trainer situated in the garage :smilewink:

The center pedestal is needed for TISL and circuit breaker panel.

 

Cheers

Hans

 

p.s. eventually found the picture of it (http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1903647&postcount=447) this thread is really long :-D

Edited February 17, 2015 by Hansolo
added link

[LynxDK]

Ah yea, the Width of the pedals might be a problem there.

 

Custom made panels maybe?

 

LynxDK

Edited February 17, 2015 by LynxDK

[Deadman]

HI LynxDK welcome to the thread. Custom panels are not really my first choice. I will check the diffrent pedals and see if there is a fit just by modifying the back of the center pedestal. Thanks DM

[LynxDK]

Yea, narrower custom panels on the pedestal might end up looking wierd.

 

Maybe its possible to place a plate on each pedal, so it becomes widder that way. You know, a kinda universal plate, that looks like the original A-10 pedals.

 

LynxDK

Edited February 17, 2015 by LynxDK

[Deadman]

It is one of the things I will just have to see how they fit I have not checked the width of the different pedals yet. I am more concerned about the pedal siting at a comfortable distance.

[Ghostraider]

Hey Deadman check the link: http://aerotronicsllc.com/docs/rudders.pdf

[Deadman]

GHI those are F-16 style rudder pedals and work completely different than A-10 Ruder pedals.

Aerotronics supplies the GOV so the price would be high.

[Deadman]

here are a couple of pictures of the A-10 rudder pedals I have posted before

 

[Deadman]

A quick question if any one wants to help out those of you with ACES II seats. You have sup-structures that the seat sits on instead of being attached and supported by a rail system is this how you would like the seat incorporated in to the cockpit?

[Deadman]

There seams to be no interest in the sub structure to support the ACES II seat so I will just take care of it.

[Boltz]

I don't mind how the aces 2 is mounted. What ever is easier for you