FAC mission and Binocular mode

[Pegaso69]

Hi

Ive read in the map key the Binocular View Toggle mode (B + Lwin)

Binocular laser illumination (L + LALT) mode and Binocular view IR mode (Z + LWin)

are not yet implemented? or we must create a FAC mission?

sorry if the question may sound stupid but I am curious

 

Thanx

[swift]

Yes you can activate FAC view on any friendly unit. Just hit F10 and then press the upper left button (JFO/JTAC view).

[Steel Jaw]

AFAIK Binoculars do not work yet, not for mois anyhow.

[TheWHite]

I'm curious to.

As i love acting as AFAC, binoculars are a must.

[Pegaso69]

Yes you can activate FAC view on any friendly unit. Just hit F10 and then press the upper left button (JFO/JTAC view).

 

Thanx Swift, but maybe you dont understand (my english not good :-( i know!! ).

I know F10, but if you pressing F10 we have the view of the AWACS but in real life the pilot of the A10 cannot see it when they are flying on an A10.

If you want fly in relistic mode you cannot use F10 because it would be too easy to discover the enemy position and/or direction etc...

Is exactly what I meant ... binocular vision binoculars mounted on the helmet...

i think!!!

 

But thanx for the reply

[asparagin]

AFAIK Binoculars do not work yet, not for mois anyhow.

 

Of course they do: zoom in and zoom out!

[Soulreciever]

Why don´t you just zoom in?

Look in the options menu, axis assignment.

[Steel Jaw]

Why don´t you just zoom in?

Look in the options menu, axis assignment.

 

I already do that. But I do not think that's the same thing.

[swift]

Thanx Swift, but maybe you dont understand (my english not good :-( i know!! ).

I know F10, but if you pressing F10 we have the view of the AWACS but in real life the pilot of the A10 cannot see it when they are flying on an A10.

If you want fly in relistic mode you cannot use F10 because it would be too easy to discover the enemy position and/or direction etc...

Is exactly what I meant ... binocular vision binoculars mounted on the helmet...

i think!!!

 

But thanx for the reply

 

Ah, got you now, sorry. Well I really don't have a clue, It'd be great though. WIP I guess, but don't know if the zoom all the in correspond to the real vision or simulate binoculars...

[Pegaso69]

Ah, got you now, sorry. Well I really don't have a clue, It'd be great though. WIP I guess, but don't know if the zoom all the in correspond to the real vision or simulate binoculars...

 

mmhhhnnn i think no... the normal zoom ( / and * ) it's the view zoom... this is not real!!!!

For the binocular mode we have another combo key (that i show you in my fisrt post here).

I think that when we are In FAC mode we can spot enemy look around with the binocular mode and then make an mark point and send via datalink to anyother aircraft in support CAS in the area e i think that we can flash the target with the binocular illumanation laser, they will receive our mark point via datalink and their sensors will see our illumination laser and dropping their LGB (Laser Guide Bomb) into the TGT.

I think so but not sure.

I think that in mode FAC maybe we dont have the correct weapons and cannot engage enemy.

In the Key configuration map we've three FAC mode:

FAC
(B LWin) -> Binocular view toggle
(L LAlt) -> Binocular laser illumination toggle
(Z LWin) -> Binocular view IR mode

I've try all keys but nothing happens, maybe we need to load a FAC mission, and then the A10 will switch in mode FAC

Edited October 19, 2010 by Pegaso69

[asparagin]

:D ..you guys

[lucioperca]

I think a cockpit binoculars mode would be a lot more realistic than having to use zoom, in RL CAS pilots often use them to find and ID targets .

Prehaps ED will do it in the future it cant be that hard to do

[swift]

@Pegaso: did you try F10 -> JTAC View -> LWIN+B ? just to show you that those keys are functional :)

 

Regarding AFAC, Page 28 from the manual:

When an A-10 is performing the AFAC role, it is termed an OA-10. There is no real difference between an A-10 and an OA-10 other than the mission and the OA-10 will generally have an AFAC payload consisting of Willy Pete marker rockets and several weapons. An A-10 that is dual tasked for CAS/BAI and AFAC is sometimes referred to as an A/OA-10 or a ―Killer Scout.

 

With the addition of the Litening II AT targeting pod, the A-10 is a much more capable AFAC that can operate day or night. Previously, night time AFAC could be problematic and relied solely on the use if night vision goggles (NVG). For day time AFAC, the older OA-10 models had to use binoculars.

 

Along with the targeting pod, the SADL datalink allows the OA-10 to digitally transmit target locations to other aircraft on the network as well as sending clarifying text messages. Of course, the verbal talk on is also available over the radio.

The employment and operative of SADL datalink system is defined in pages 310-313, anyone tried that online?

[159th_Falcon]

I think a cockpit binoculars mode would be a lot more realistic than having to use zoom, in RL CAS pilots often use them to find and ID targets .

Prehaps ED will do it in the future it cant be that hard to do

 

Now why would you want a Binoc if you have the Litening II targeting pod?????

 

May be a nice addition for a A10A pilot, but i don't see its use in the A10C.

[Kaiza]

AFAIK those views are when you are playing a JTAC on the ground only. If you do as Swift says and go to JTAC view, you press these keybinds and can use bonoculars to spot enemys/mark with smoke and laser rangfind in normal or IR views.

 

Like this:

 

 

The employment and operative of SADL datalink system is defined in pages 310-313, anyone tried that online?

Yeah tried that last night- worked sweet! Were transmitting SPI data, and can swap IDs etc. Edited October 19, 2010 by Kaiza

[Pegaso69]

Now why would you want a Binoc if you have the Litening II targeting pod?????

 

May be a nice addition for a A10A pilot, but i don't see its use in the A10C.

 

Sorry Guys but my english it's no good and i read the manual just a little at a time just because my English is not good.

I've found just yesterday that buttons configuration about the FAC, in the PDF file (that you can find here in the forum named "A-10C KEYS.pdf "), at the bottom of this PDF are the keys for the FAC and I was just curious as to how they affect the SIM and if they were fully implemented.

Since they are keys in the configuration ... I simply asked :)

I really have never fly on an A10 (unfortunately) so I can only know by reading some things here and there on the Internet and I dont've an friend pilot that tells me how things are actually in a real mission.

Now i know

Thanx

[Invisibull]

Pegaso:

 

First, your English is fine. Perfectly understandable. Second, and perhaps more importantly, your attitude is excellent. You're curious and excited about this sim (as am I), and you're always respectful of other posters. A fine addition to the community in my opinion. Keep asking away, as I learn quite a bit from the answers your questions provoke.

[LeadDoctor]

I must be missing something here. (beta 3) When I press the JTAC view it shows the vehicle but I can't pull up the range finder. Pressing L-Window+B and all the combos. Checked key settings and those are correct. Scratching head.

[Brer Rabbit]

It would be nice to have binoculars, because you can use them much more quickly the the targeting pod. Some cheap 7x Bushnell's would do. You could just look out where you want, and then hit a key to bring up the binocs. Please code them in DCS. It shouldn't be that hard.

[Nate--IRL--]

In the meantime you can use the Numpad / and * keys to zoom in and out to simulate Binoculars in cockpit, and RCTRL and Numpad / and * for external views.

 

Nate

[cichlidfan]

Now why would you want a Binoc if you have the Litening II targeting pod?????

 

May be a nice addition for a A10A pilot, but i don't see its use in the A10C.

 

The pilots interviewed for Smallwood's Warthog often mentioned using binoculars to get a better look at things. Granted they had less capable equipment than the C pilots but I would not be surprised if they were still used as it is going to be a lot easier to take a quick look at this or that with binos as opposed to slewing the TGP or aircraft to the object in question, in the daytime of course.

 

There is also the idea of keeping your head out of the cockpit being a good thing.

 

Just my vague opinion,

[Kaiza]

 

There is also the idea of keeping your head out of the cockpit being a good thing.

 

Just my vague opinion,

 

Yeah unfortunately your head is wayyyy out of the cockpit though. Using binos would sap 10x more SA than the TGP IMO. Not to mention, unless they are gyro stabilized they are an absolute bitch to use airborne.

 

If their is any evidense that binos are still carried in the C then yeah why not, otherwise -1 on binos from me.

[WildBillKelsoe]

I want those Binos!!!

[Joyride]

A-10C pilots regularly still take up binocs. The TGP is not a good search tool, unless you already know where to look.

[Joyride]

An old thread on the subject:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1246262&highlight=binoculars#post1246262

 

paulrkiii says the pilots still use them. I would love to see it implemented in the sim - the "zoom" function, like the default NVG, is at least something but doesn't account for the optics/lack of peripheral vision when you use them.