Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Warning to all those TM Warthog owners who are planning to mod their stick. If you're not VERY careful when re-seating the ball of the stick into the socket joint, you can trap the wires traveling through the slot in the ball. This description should hopefully make sense to anyone who has/will dismantle their stick. Anyway, after relubing the stick, I trapped said wires, stripping insulation off a couple of wires and severing one, resulting in all buttons no longer working. PLEASE be careful. *Curses TM for not lubing the stick properly in the first place* :furious: 2
swift Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 That's sad :( Maybe you can slide it into an RMA somehow?
EtherealN Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Ouf, RMAing something that you dismantled? I suspect that that's just not going to happen. Wires are easy to replace though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
kaiserb_uk Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Yup, I did this, although I managed to only squish (and not sever) the earth wire. Good tip is to have the baseplate removed and pull the wires taught from underneath [while refitting the ball joint] - it's having slack above the ball joint which causes problems.
59th_Bird Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 It happened to me too, but I've soldered the traped wire and now it works fine. Next time I pulled out all the five wires from the IDC connector. It took for a while to reassemble it, but now it works fine - expect the stick's movements... TM Warthog no.00128
swift Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Ouf, RMAing something that you dismantled? I suspect that that's just not going to happen. Wires are easy to replace though. You'd be disturbed of the things I had RMAed in my RL work :doh: 1
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2010 Author Posted December 5, 2010 I've soldered the severed wire, so hopefully I'll be able to get it working. I just need to insulate the wires, as some of the plastic got stripped off. Don't want anyone else to make the same mistake as it's an easy one to make, but also easy to avoid if you're warned about it. Note kaiserb's tip! Yup, I did this, although I managed to only squish (and not sever) the earth wire. Good tip is to have the baseplate removed and pull the wires taught from underneath [while refitting the ball joint] - it's having slack above the ball joint which causes problems.
Yskonyn Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 thanks for the heads up, flamin. i'll be sure to check that when i open it up. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
JellybeanTiger Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) Warning to all those TM Warthog owners who are planning to mod their stick. If you're not VERY careful when re-seating the ball of the stick into the socket joint, you can trap the wires traveling through the slot in the ball. This description should hopefully make sense to anyone who has/will dismantle their stick. Anyway, after relubing the stick, I trapped said wires, stripping insulation off a couple of wires and severing one, resulting in all buttons no longer working. PLEASE be careful. *Curses TM for not lubing the stick properly in the first place* :furious: It took me 4 hours one night trying to repair my Cougar throttle . Opened it and thing literally fell to pieces. Getting those circular rings to fit in their slots and the teeny weeny pot to fit all at the same time makes a game of Twister seem like child's play. I dip my hat to modders. LOL@ ordering Cubpilots throttle mod and then completely screwing it up(If I bought it.I opened mine up to look at the stock pot and see how cute a 20 cent pot looks). And I'm unco with stuff and getting old. Each minute I was looking at the window then at the Cougar at an increasing rate. P.S I just won a bid on elite pedals. Odear,what have I done? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Don't worry CH Products. I'm saving up for you. All the others are the life of the party but you are sitting there in the corner not getting attention. But I know if I took you home ,you would blow me away. The other bimbo blondes are not good in bed. Edited December 6, 2010 by JellybeanTiger 2
Cali Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 I was starting to think the same thing when I couldn't get my cougars to install on windows 7. I even thought about going back to the store and punching the manager in the face. I told a squadmate that he might see me on the news. Good thing I didn't have my gun at the time, wait, I think I did have it. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Slammin Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 Cali, I really have to say that although I was an early adopter to 64bit OS's, TM really did step up to the plate in delivering drivers. It did take longer than I wished, but heck, look at Natural Point, and I love TrackIR, but understanding that things take time, I was, and am patient, and the drivers came for the Cougar, as I'm sure they will for TrackIR. I'm really at a loss with why you can't get your Cougar going. My only thought is that is HAS to be defective because from all the advice in this thread, you should be up and running with it. Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
Slammin Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 And, will someone please shut that sily JellybeanTiger up? I am so bored with him polluting this forum. 1 Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
JellybeanTiger Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 Don't worry Slammin'. I'm exercising daily to get rid of Cougarhateis disease I got and it's working. Just to prove it I won some elite pedals on ebay in excellent condition. I will try to love my Cougar(pats stick).
Cali Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 Cali, I really have to say that although I was an early adopter to 64bit OS's, TM really did step up to the plate in delivering drivers. It did take longer than I wished, but heck, look at Natural Point, and I love TrackIR, but understanding that things take time, I was, and am patient, and the drivers came for the Cougar, as I'm sure they will for TrackIR. I'm really at a loss with why you can't get your Cougar going. My only thought is that is HAS to be defective because from all the advice in this thread, you should be up and running with it. I don't know why either, it's driving me crazy! That would make the 2 that I got both defective, hope that's the case. Maybe 3rd times a charm... I love Jellybean's post, they make me laugh. I know the pain he has went through. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 6, 2010 Author Posted December 6, 2010 Managed to fix it in the end. Soldered the damaged wire, then sealed the insulation with a hot glue gun. Lots of swearing and fraid nerves in the process though!
Sticky Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 Glad to hear you fixed it!!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Sim/Game CV: Falcon 1,3,4. Gunship. A10 TankKiller. Fighter Bomber. Strike eagle 2&3. F19 Stealth Fighter. F117. Wings. F29 Retaliator. Jetfighter II. F16 Fighting Falcon. Strike Commander. F22 Raptor. F16MRF. ATF. EF2000. Longbow 1&2. TankKiller2 Silent Thunder. Hind. Apache Havoc. EECH. EAW. F22 ADF. TAW. Janes WW2,USAF,IAF,F15,F18. F18 Korea. F18 Super Hornet. B17 II. CFS 2. Flanker 2&2.5. BOB. Mig Alley. IL2. LOMAC. IL2FB. FC2. DCS:BS. DCS:A10C.
Succellus Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 Congrats on the fix. I don t know in USA but for such event here in Brazil you can find liquid insulating tubes, same material as insulating tapes but liquid, very usefull, and more precise than liquid glue gun, no chance to heat yourself to the swaering point :) HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Rusty_M Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 I hope third time is the charm Cali. Same thing happened with my X52 (I know not exactly cougar or WH). The first two were defective, but the third one is great (and also bought from a different place) The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
Yskonyn Posted December 6, 2010 Posted December 6, 2010 Gratz on getting yours fixed, flamin squirrel! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Slammin Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 My red wire broke. The symptom was, pressing one button on the stick would light up all buttons. I guess it was pinched and finally broke. I managed to splice it back and put a little electrical tape on it over the soldier. All is well now but it is not a pleasant experience taking it apart like that. I had no idea that a HALL circuit is actually an IC chip with a magnet floating over it. Pretty cool! Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
Cali Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 I hope third time is the charm Cali. Same thing happened with my X52 (I know not exactly cougar or WH). The first two were defective, but the third one is great (and also bought from a different place) Gonna try to install it tonight, pray for me brothers...better yet pray for TM, this cougar and the Fry's store that I bought it at. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
ilikepie Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Gonna try to install it tonight, pray for me brothers...better yet pray for TM, this cougar and the Fry's store that I bought it at. still got that gun?:music_whistling: best you lock it away if it dont work. good luck! Action After Contemplation
Cali Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 still got that gun?:music_whistling: best you lock it away if it dont work. good luck! Yes...still got the gun and 150 rounds... 1 i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
El_Roto Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Only 150? Not enough when the Zombie Apocalypse hits! :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 257th Fighting Falcons/First VFW-25th Virtual Fighter Squadron Specs: Win7 HP 64 bit, i7-960 @ 3.2GHz, 12GB DDR3 RAM @ 1333MHz, Intel-based Alienware mobo, 256GB Samsung SSD, WD 1.0TB HD, Samsung LCD monitor @ 1920x1200, TM Warthog, SIMPED vario F-16 rudders w/brakes, R.A.T. 7 mouse, 2xMimo 7" LCDs, 2xTM Cougar MFDs, and TrackIR4 w/Pro Clip. Wife who tolerates it. Cat who thinks she can interrupt at ANY time. :doh:
Succellus Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Only 150? Not enough when the Zombie Apocalypse hits! :) Well.. 9mm + 150 round is probably better than my single katana, wont even count the wanna be survival sec ops battle knive. Warthog isn t home yet :D HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
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