Guppy Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 So I played original LOMAC and FC pretty intensly and I am now just getting back into the swing of things...butttttttt I am having a bit of difficulty. I am noticing when flying head on I am losing lock of my targets quite frequently. In TWS mode I constantly makesure my radar antennas are are the appropraite angels as I get closer and if they shift elevation. However, right at the must critical moment I lose lock. Or if I'm launching an Aim-7 I lose lock for no reason I can think of. in STT Mode I still lose lock. I cannot figure it out. I understand why if they start to beam or F-Pole. But the majority of times it is when they are flying straight at me! I've searched a few posts and they all address people beaming or F-poling, which is not the case here. My Simpit Progress and Update Learn how to build a SimPit like mine: Follow my Blog here!
Hex Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 I seem to be having this problem too, any ideas? 1Lt. Matthew "Hex" Angel Hawk Squadron Flight Lead(Offline) All hell will break loose when I get online :D "A pilot who doesn't have any fear probably isn't flying his plane to its maximum."
GGTharos Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Have you tried using a better suited PRF mode? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Guppy Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 Have you tried using a better suited PRF mode? ummm What do you mean - could you explain? My Simpit Progress and Update Learn how to build a SimPit like mine: Follow my Blog here!
104th_Crunch Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Search the PDF manual for PRF. It applies to US and RUs jets in FC2 and will help your lock issue.
dooom Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 your bandit is likely notching you. PRF can combat this. ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
Guppy Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 So for whatever reason my PDF wont open. UGH But what ive gathered is this: High PRF is for high closure meaning they are at a high altitude? Medium PRF is for Low closure meaning they are at low altitude? If this is correct, if I see they are at angels 20+ should I use High and lower than 20 use Medium? My Simpit Progress and Update Learn how to build a SimPit like mine: Follow my Blog here!
Breakshot Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 So for whatever reason my PDF wont open. UGH But what ive gathered is this: High PRF is for high closure meaning they are at a high altitude? Medium PRF is for Low closure meaning they are at low altitude? If this is correct, if I see they are at angels 20+ should I use High and lower than 20 use Medium? Negative! Pulse repetition frequency (PRF) is adjusted solely on the basis of the target's aspect relevant to you. In simple terms, if he is heading towards you, the closure rate between you and him is high ==> set High PRF. If he is flying away from you ==> Med PRF. Altitude, however influential for radar contact detection it might be, should not be used as a signal to switch PRF settings, at least in most normal circumstances... Also the F15 possesses a very powerful interleaved auto mode (compared to Rus birds) that automatically switches between HI/MED PRFs, so be sure to use it! Tim "Breakshot" Mytrofanov | C.O. of 51 ПВО / 100 КИАП Regiments | twitch.tv/51breakshot
104th_Crunch Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Dude, you need to fix your PDF reader! Manual is a must.
Guppy Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 Dude, you need to fix your PDF reader! Manual is a must. Yeah I know... But a lot of the "stuff" I already know it's just the changes that were made to the "new" FC that I have not learned. So this PRF combats notching then? My Simpit Progress and Update Learn how to build a SimPit like mine: Follow my Blog here!
104th_Crunch Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 If you have the FC1 manual, PRF is described for the Russian jets. It is the same for the F-15 in FC2 now. If the target is nose on to you, then HI mode will give you a 25% increase in range over using the standard ILV mode. So, if you are having a problem locking a nose on target, try HI mode. If the target is moving away, MED mode. If you are not sure, ILV mode. It is not directly related to notiching, no.
onehitxzibit Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Is there a way to find my current PRF mode while in TWS or STT?
104th_Crunch Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 No to TWS. You must remember what mode you are in in RWS before going TWS. You can also still switch PRF in TWS, but again, no indication given. I doubt that this is realistic. In STT mode there is no PRF function as all radar energy is focused on the contact anyway.
GGTharos Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Actually there is no indication on the VSD in TWS mode when it comes to PRF. IIRC in this case the PRF is automatically handled, but again IIRC, and this was in a pretty old version of the APG-63 software. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Guppy Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 STT mode is best suited if i know there is only one bandit close? So if im losing lock in STT mode I am more than likely going to lose lock in TWS mode even if im using PRF HI/MED? My Simpit Progress and Update Learn how to build a SimPit like mine: Follow my Blog here!
104th_Crunch Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Actually there is no indication on the VSD in TWS mode when it comes to PRF. IIRC in this case the PRF is automatically handled, but again IIRC, and this was in a pretty old version of the APG-63 software. Interesting thanks, but as we know PRF in manual in FC2. MAyve since it is manual we should have got an indicator. STT mode is best suited if i know there is only one bandit close? You deduction is correct. When in STT you won't see anything else, but if you are ready to fire, you have no choice. I always wait to go STT when I am ready to fire and not before. So if im losing lock in STT mode I am more than likely going to lose lock in TWS mode even if im using PRF HI/MED? As far as I know, RWS (before you lock in STT) has faster scanning than TWS. TWS relies on memory more than RWS. I believe that is the main disadvantage of TWS over RWS, or else why even have a RWS mode. GG, care to elaborate? I know you touched on it before. Guppy, you first concern should be getting to read the manual!
RIPTIDE Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Crunch... on STT mode... I think that you can change PRF mode while locked on. In fact I would say that it is very important to do this in some situations. As for RWS vs TWS. Real life vs FC2.0 will probably diverge here. in Real life you need what... 4 track points before its committed to memory? In FC2.0, the track is just there... but you still need 2 full radar sweeps to be able to bug contact IIRC. Edited January 6, 2011 by RIPTIDE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
104th_Crunch Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Crunch... on STT mode... I think that you can change PRF mode while locked on. In fact I would say that it is very important to do this in some situations. Crap. Nice find, That I think is undocumented. Thanks
RIPTIDE Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Crap. Nice find, That I think is undocumented. Thanks Here's something to do. Fire up FC2.0 SP. You/F15 vs fighter, 45 miles. Lock him in STT HI. Then tap your PRF cycle key and see what happens. Then you can confirm. BTW this is very important in play. If you have your man in TWS HI form afar and need to STT lock him at 20-25, you'll need to be able to tap your PRF to med or else he's gone if he goes defensive. Can't remember exactly what range the MEM submode cuts in to give you a few seconds grace to swap PRF if you loose lock. Maybe its about 20nm or 50km? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
PoleCat Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Crap. Nice find, That I think is undocumented. Thanks Not any more. Thanks Riptide great info. :thumbup: Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
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