PC gamer Pg 82 03/2011

[Boberro]

Don't be so sure about that Boberro. Remember that FC2 had a lot of surprises in it for the devs - what was originally expected to be a 2-month operation ended up being a much longer effort. Also keep in mind that time spent making an "FC3" would be almost directly translatable to time delays in the next DCS product and thus a delay on that revenue stream.

 

After making FC 3 on DCS engine leve compatible you have problems solved with future and you can upgrade FC as same as BS example :)

 

I'd rather wait a bit longer for DCS fighter than to fly around with simplified fighter opfor that's for sure (especially in a complex A-10C). FC2 right now is great with Black Shark, you have loads of strike fighters/fighters and even a helo...it's hard to ask for a better flight sim platform than that.

 

Just think in 5 years hopefully we'll have the same thing (less fighters) but in a true sim DCS world...THAT is bad ass.

 

Problem is new planes are being made so slow that it will take long years till we have more fighters. This is where FC fills hole.

 

Here you go

http://www.sector.sk/recenzia/28803/dcs_black_shark.htm

but not sure what good it will be to you, as it is all in slovak :P;)

 

At least it is not Chech :megalol:

[Grimes]

LOL, Andy wrote praise for LOMAC years ago, putting it on a par with Falcon 4, and I grilled him over Frug's world for it...anyone remember that thread? Andy Mahood: I'm calling you out.

 

Comparing Falcon 4 to anything of this world is fightin' words. How dare he? Does he not know of the wrath that the Falcon fanbase will smite upon him!? Wars have been started over less. Everyone knows that Falcon 4 is perfect and infallible. To put it on the same level as a product created by mere mortals is insanity. Has he no shame!

 

 

 

 

Oh wait. I was just being over dramatic. Yet what I typed sounds so familiar... Hmmm, Strange. ಠ_ಠ

[Cali]

I don't trust anything until it happens.

[empeck]

Problem is new planes are being made so slow that it will take long years till we have more fighters.

 

Who needs fighters anyway. :music_whistling:

[104th_Crunch]

I never expressed this opinion before here, not! Don't waste time on FC compatibility. Move on to DCS:Fighter for frick's sake! Andy Mahood has been writing about sims for a long time. That is a good thing.

[GhostDog]

Depends who wrote it. Back when I had a subscription to PCG they still had a simulation column written by Andy Mahood. (I think I spelled that right) At any rate, he did most if not all of the simulation game reviews and previews for the mag. His column was also top notch. Granted he wrote about more than just flight sims. But I seem to remember his articles had quite a passion for auto-racing and flight sims.

 

He has an article in this very issue in fact, but he's long since been relegated to a single page, at the very most.

[Steel Jaw]

he's long since been relegated to a single page, at the very most.

 

That's because the knuckle-dragging simpletons reading PCG dont have the attention span to read more without a collection of flashy screenies. :D

[EtherealN]

After making FC 3 on DCS engine leve compatible you have problems solved with future and you can upgrade FC as same as BS example :)

 

Not that easy. It was originally believed that it would be "that easy" for FC2 - that's why it was originally believed to be such a short project, but surprises struck that made it take longer and the price had to be bumped up as a result.

[FLANKERATOR]

I would say both opinions make sense. Dedicating everything to DCS will save time and money to come out with new modules faster, however until then, FC is and will be the only human vs human solution.

Flying against AI opponents while learning new cockpits is fun, but IMO that doesn't come close to the excitement and depth of human vs human online aerial combat.

I love Falcon's high fidelity cockpits but I fly most of the time on the less detailed FC fighters, just because of that unique mixture, variety and rock solid online human vs human world FC is providing.

[Grimes]

I think as a whole it would be foolish to put time and effort into making FC compatible with A10C. In terms of aircraft for aircraft I'd say the Ka-50 adds more to the FC2 gameplay experience than a A-10C ever could. Furthermore it just wouldn't be right to have a DCS:A-10C and a SFM A-10A on the battlefield at the same time.

 

That said, I would be all for a FC2 patch to include the mission editor and AI enhancements from A-10C. But I doubt that is going to happen. Sadly I am of the opinion that making BS compatible with FC2 was awesome for the short-term, but could prove contentious in the long term. In a way it gave DCS/FC2 users a hope and expectation that DCS is compatible with FC2, thus future products for either will remain compatible. I won't be surprised if the BS to WH compatibility completely breaks the BS to FC2 compatibility.

[MasterZelgadis]

At least they didn't say it would be H.A.W.X.-compatible...

[Boberro]

I won't be surprised if the BS to WH compatibility completely breaks the BS to FC2 compatibility.

 

There is exit - you don't have to patch current BS installation:)

 

Generally I would vote yes for compatibility between FC and A-10C. As I said mking new planes takes long time and FC could just fill a hole before new jets could be in years.

Even in DCS:Enter_fighter_name_here would come up FC will be more popular due to facts there you have Human vs. Human, big emotions, adrenaline.

Edited February 9, 2011 by Boberro

[element1108]

There is exit - you don't have to patch current BS installation:)

 

Generally I would vote yes for compatibility between FC and A-10C. As I said mking new planes takes long time and FC could just fill a hole before new jets could be in years.

Even in DCS:Enter_fighter_name_here would come up FC will be more popular due to facts there you have Human vs. Human, big emotions, adrenaline.

 

Don't forget the A-10C project efficiency was hindered by the FC BS compatibility patch, but I see your point. I agree with Grimes though, the A-10C really has no place in a world with the A-10A (simply modeling difference). 50 steps to fire a mav for C, 2 steps for A. The helicopter REALLY ads to FC2 because well...helicopters and fast movers have NEVER been in the same online combat arena before...ever *with human pilots*.

 

For all we know, ED could have a portion of it's team working on the next military contract (and airframe). Keeping things moving forward business wise while another project is coming to an end. Don't forget it's not just an airframe we're getting, we're getting improvements in all areas as well.

 

I LOVE FC2 and BS in FC2, the options for airframes is incredible and really makes for an amazing online experience (when everyone is contributing generally). I just don't see the point (gameplay experience and developer time) bothering to mix simplified airframes with complex ones.

 

DCS will get there, we just need to give it a bit more growing time and until then, FC2 + Black Shark and hopefully soon after release DCS-A-10C + Black Shark and after that...A-10C + Black Shark + F16/Mig 29/F18/SU-27 :joystick:

[Frostie]

I don't trust anything until it happens.

What happens when you feel the need for a dump?

Forget it I don't want to know. :D