New map wish >> LIBYA

[skypirate]

Following the latest events it seems more and more appropriate to have a new A-10 scene of action on the North African coast...

 

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/19/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

 

Yeah, yeah, I know it is mostly France and UK call on this one but US is moving in too.

[BKLronin]

I don´t think that it is a good idea to have a map of a current war theatre. We should better keep it fictional.

[Boberro]

It doesn't matter fictional or real... map is map that's all.

 

Anyway I would be more interested historic threatres like Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, that area ;]

[BKLronin]

I would prefer a map of europe with lots of different terrain.

[Distiler]

I'm dying for public tools so we can really speed up anybody's ideas :l

Maybe ED can integrate in their business model somehow, like 3rd party mini expansions with a low price tag with standarized ED quality stamp on it or something like that.

Edited March 20, 2011 by Distiler

[flanker0ne]

If a map is a map why the desire of a Lybian theater now....nice coast?

[Shinigami]

If a map is a map why the desire of a Lybian theater now....nice coast?

 

Yea right the nort african coast is very beautiful this time of the year, If a map is only a map I will like USA or Israel or Dubai, way not???.

 

Less not include actual conflict zones in the DCS series, so we avoid misunderstanding with the families of the death peoples that are suffering now.

Edited March 21, 2011 by Shinigami

[Spook]

What about when they make a beta version of this map?

[isoul]

As we write in this forum there are people in Libya that are killed in a civil strife. Not only military personnel, mercenaries or rebels... there are civilians getting killed aswell that are not terrorists or rebels. They just want to live a peaceful life. Now some of you want a map of Libya while a conflict in Libya is still going on?

 

Some things aren't fun. Its disrespectful for the people who suffer to ask for a map to play with your A-10C attack aircraft while every day civilians die in a real war.

[Boberro]

As we write in this forum there are people in Libya that are killed in a civil strife. Not only military personnel, mercenaries or rebels... there are civilians getting killed aswell that are not terrorists or rebels. They just want to live a peaceful life. Now some of you want a map of Libya while a conflict in Libya is still going on?

 

Some things aren't fun. Its disrespectful for the people who suffer to ask for a map to play with your A-10C attack aircraft while every day civilians die in a real war.

 

Yeah we should remove Georgia too, don't you remember Russian-Georgian war?

It's just terrain, nothing more nothing less. Anyway I would more like to see Afghanistan than Libya, nicer area for choppers.

[WRFirefox]

:no:Libya - NO!!!

The cause is simple - there is momentary no operational area for the A-10. If DCS have the F-15E, F-16 or F-18 simulatet - then maybe. But in the momentary situation for me NOOOO!!!!

[mig29movt]

It doesn't matter fictional or real... map is map that's all.

 

Anyway I would be more interested historic threatres like Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, that area ;]

 

Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, that area and Nellis?? What about something which isn't flat and desert?

[WRFirefox]

....yes!!!:thumbup: i want a Map of Switzerland!

 

And the Mission is to defend the CHEESE-Production against the Austria Invaders. A real CAS (Cheese At Switzerland) Mission!:pilotfly:

 

Im ready to help from Germany!!!!;)

Edited March 26, 2011 by WRFirefox

[Apples]

Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, that area and Nellis?? What about something which isn't flat and desert?

 

For 1 Afghanistan isn't flat, For 2 these areas do not just consist of desert environments. There is actually quite a bit of vegetation, specially in Afghanistan.

[636_Castle]

I just want Nevada released, then maybe I'll start begging for some more ED modeled theaters.

 

Remember Batou(?) is pretty deep into progress on his Afghanistan map.

 

I personally didn't care for Nevada during the beta, but only because it was removed before they started optimizing frame rates, so I never got the chance to enjoy it. When it's released we'll have the best of both worlds: Red Flag ops, real world training/TP grounds, and an area for desert CAS terrain.

 

I don't think ED has dedicated staff to work on theaters and release as DLCs. The Nevada DLC was unplanned (which also doesn't make it appropriate to charge some people for it, but that's another story), so future addon maps will probably depend heavily on the community. Which is why I get frustrated at the lack of an SDK for the talent here. :helpsmilie:

Edited March 25, 2011 by 636_Castle

[aaron886]

Which is why I get frustrated at the lack of an SDK for the talent here. :helpsmilie:

:cry:

[dne48]

I would like Iowa. Can't you imagine flying around and seeing all of the flat land and cornfields? Why do you people keep on wishing? Its kind of like Cliffs of Dover right now. We are going to get what they give us and if 1000 people like a particular idea, it will be the other 17 that get their wish.

 

And what the f happened to my reputation/ I used to have 4, holy cripes

[flanker0ne]

If someone know Bill Hicks, and his messages, all this can be call "American Gladiator" effect.:music_whistling:

 

I'm so worried, as a human being, that if the production of theaters for flight simulation goes slowly than the new wars, there is something

wrong somewhere.

[Snoopy]

Europe, Korea, or Iran...Afghanistan I guess cause we're there now but honestly there is no threat to the A-10s there....

[isoul]

Yeah we should remove Georgia too, don't you remember Russian-Georgian war?

It's just terrain, nothing more nothing less. Anyway I would more like to see Afghanistan than Libya, nicer area for choppers.

 

 

Actually the recent conflict between Russia and Georgia took place a few months before the release of DCS:BS. The map was already done at that time and was already used in FC too, right? The Russo-Georgian war in 2008 was fiction in the time ED chose to use that theater of war.Apart from this the map almost doesn't include the main area of the conflict (South Ossetia) and the major towns/cities that the conflict took place.

 

Libyan revolution is ending up as a civil war and its happening now. I believe it would be too much to create a terrain where we "play" and "bomb" for fun while actual people are dying there. It would be disrespectful in the same way if Libyans asked a New York terrain with the WTC standing in a civilian airliner simulator back in 2001.

 

On the other hand Libyan or Iraqi terrain would be rather boring (full of plains with a few mountains). If you want some nice terrain Balkans or Afghanistan would be a lot better.

Edited March 26, 2011 by isoul

[Tnt Snipes]

We like to move on so quickly... dont we?... for example we start polling for the next aircraft right after the new one is released...

 

IMHO at first i would rather become an ACE on A10C than polling for a new model all together... I have also done it, i have also started similar poles... but i feel its not Justified for the Hardwork DCS puts in one thing and the game itself...

its a good idea of working on the Maps now... i think DCS should give simulations a break cause they have already achieved something really marvelous... let it seep into our viens for a while... and start designing Campaigns based on true/hypothetical events...

 

So next time we would be buying complete campaigns rather than buying a whole new aircraft... or they can keep both things going in parallel well thats upto them... Beggers cant be choosers...

[Shinigami]

Yeah we should remove Georgia too, don't you remember Russian-Georgian war?

It's just terrain, nothing more nothing less. Anyway I would more like to see Afghanistan than Libya, nicer area for choppers.

 

Well you could not compare Georgian theater with Libya the socio-political conditions are not the same ones, besides that in Libya the conflict is a civil war and in Georgia it was among military that are paid for killing each others.

 

So I continue supporting the thesis of not putting maps of ethnic or civil conflicts in DCS

[sobek]

And the Mission is to defend the CHEESE-Production against the Austria Invaders. A real CAS (Cheese At Switzerland) Mission!:pilotfly:

 

Like Austria would have to invade Switzerland for Cheese. :doh::megalol:

[Shinigami]

I'm amused now we go to war for the cheese.:D

 

I like my portion to, so less call it instead of OILWAR CHEESEWAR my first preventive attack would be over France (what can I say, President cheese rules).:D

Edited March 29, 2011 by Shinigami

[Boberro]

Actually the recent conflict between Russia and Georgia took place a few months before the release of DCS:BS. The map was already done at that time and was already used in FC too, right? The Russo-Georgian war in 2008 was fiction in the time ED chose to use that theater of war.Apart from this the map almost doesn't include the main area of the conflict (South Ossetia) and the major towns/cities that the conflict took place.

 

Libyan revolution is ending up as a civil war and its happening now. I believe it would be too much to create a terrain where we "play" and "bomb" for fun while actual people are dying there. It would be disrespectful in the same way if Libyans asked a New York terrain with the WTC standing in a civilian airliner simulator back in 2001.

 

On the other hand Libyan or Iraqi terrain would be rather boring (full of plains with a few mountains). If you want some nice terrain Balkans or Afghanistan would be a lot better.

 

That how you will use terrain is only in your gesture. Nothing more nothing less. Should we forbid knives cause many people use them against other people than taking butter on bread? Of course not :)

 

About terrain fortunately Afghanistan is being made currently and I hope we will see someday far in the future some Western Europe too.... example Carpats mountains with Slovakia, Poland, Chech.

 

Well you could not compare Georgian theater with Libya the socio-political conditions are not the same ones, besides that in Libya the conflict is a civil war and in Georgia it was among military that are paid for killing each others.

 

So I continue supporting the thesis of not putting maps of ethnic or civil conflicts in DCS

 

War is war. On both people were killed , families lost theirs mothers, friends ect.

 

I respect both of yours opinions, but I disagree with them :)

Edited March 29, 2011 by Boberro