What if the R-27EA ...

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Greetings fellows FC/DCS/BS junkies,

 

We at =4c= got little bored lately and decided to test the "what if R-27AE ..." scenario. This is by no means an attempt to rewrite the history of the R-27AE. We completely understand and accept that there is no evidence the R-27AE missile was ever introduced into a regular service of USSR or RAF or PLA or any other military force in the world.

 

Yet, we do see that in the hands of the good pilot, ARH has a decisive advantage over SARH AA missiles. Thus, we came up with a hypothetical scenario of a situation where USSR military was forced to introduce ARH missile (R-27AE) due to unavoidable conflict with the west ...

 

For "older" members of this community, you remember that we actually had the R-27AE in previous versions of Lock On's. However it was removed (capability degraded to unusable) due to the fact that there was no evidence the missile was ever introduced in USSR or RAF.

 

Therefore we decided to use R-77 seeker and put it onto an R-27EM missile body. And we created something that's sort of an R-27AE missile. We armed our Flankers with the maximum of four of them and gave it a try. Well, it was fun ...

 

In our view, F-15C still has an advantage with superior radar capability. However, the F-15 pilot now has to fly, and fly hard to use that advantage.

 

As of right now, the test mission is up and running on our dedicated server. Please feel free to join the server to get the feel of our R-27EA mod. We will be closely watching your reaction as well as your comments and suggestions. If we get thumbs up, we will keep the mod up and running. If we get thumbs down from you, we will rethink our ideas and take appropriate action.

 

To join our server running R-27EA mod, you will need to install the ModMan 7.3.0.0 compatible mod for each the FC or BS depending on the aircraft you will use to play on our server. Mods are attached here (see bootom of this post).

 

If you need a TS to coordinate action with your team members (BLUE or RED), please feel free to join our Team Speak server at the following IP:

95.156.192.41:9987

 

At the end, I would ask you again to please not turn this topic into a discussion about whether the R-27EA missile exist or not in real life military of any country. We do understand and accept the fact that there is no evidence what so ever that R-27EA exists in any military in real life.

R-27EA ARH missile for DCS Ka-50 users.rar

R-27EA ARH missile for FC2.0 users.rar

Edited May 2, 2011 by =4c= Hajduk Veljko

[Pilotasso]

Ill check it out thx!

[ALF7]

Another сolor head missile.Mod?

[Cali]

Another сolor head missile.Mod?

 

I think they gave the EM an active seeker head so it acts like an R-77/AIM-120 missile now. It's a missile that was never in use in any air force, the first post explains it all.

[*Rage*]

Might be fun.

 

Will give it a go!

[Teknetinium]

will be fun to try it out.

[Exorcet]

I'll probably get in on it next weekend. The EA might not have been real, but it's fair game to use a simulator to simulate a what if situation.

[pakster]

I m also really interested in this... I think importantly it will make the game more balance against F-15c pilots.

 

Another thing is if someone can help me is that your server which you are testing has a password to enter from I can get this password ?

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I m also really interested in this... I think importantly it will make the game more balance against F-15c pilots.

 

Another thing is if someone can help me is that your server which you are testing has a password to enter from I can get this password ?

Most of the time we do not put a password on our server. We put a password on a server when we conduct internal squad practices.

 

If you want to play on our server when R-27EA mod is active, you need to make sure you have that same mod installed on your computer. Mod files are attached in the first post and are easily installed (and removed) using a ModMan utility.

[104th_Crunch]

Most of the time we do not put a password on our server. We put a password on a server when we conduct internal squad practices.

 

If you want to play on our server when R-27EA mod is active, you need to make sure you have that same mod installed on your computer. Mod files are attached in the first post and are easily installed (and removed) using a ModMan utility.

 

Time to maybe have a joint 'must download mod pack to join server' for some of the popular servers. Include locked Tacview, R-27AE, MiG-29K, Helios, Leavu, EFFSSI by Bvoiash etc. Would be nice if 3 or 4 servers did it together.

[Boberro]

So what about Su-25TM with working Kh-31P and 32 Vikhrs ? :>

Su-17M4 and Su-24M with Su-25T cockpit? Quite realistic and give a lot of enjoy especially when you adjust FM.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Time to maybe have a joint 'must download mod pack to join server' for some of the popular servers. Include locked Tacview, R-27AE, MiG-29K, Helios, Leavu, EFFSSI by Bvoiash etc. Would be nice if 3 or 4 servers did it together.

That is a very good idea Crunch. I don't know how to do it :( , but I'll let my guys know about this idea.

[Falcon_S]

Definitely yes Crunch.

[104th_Crunch]

That is a very good idea Crunch. I don't know how to do it :( , but I'll let my guys know about this idea.

 

The concept is simple. Right now if you file check some files and you have mods that you like to use, you will fail file check. Solution is to have the sever with the same mods you want installed, then have all the clients use the same mods so file check passes.

 

Advantage - file check and use mods together

 

Disadvantage - people must download something before joining the server. They may not bother.

 

My opinion is that it sucks not using some of the great mods. Have the download, and for those too lazy to download the mod package, it is their loss.

[Boberro]

Solution would be making in LUA code where server could send clients needed files. Has it ever been tried to do?

[GGTharos]

It was possible in FC1 and it was removed because it is VERY dangerous.

[Boberro]

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[Mustang]

So what about Su-25TM with working Kh-31P and 32 Vikhrs ? :>

Su-17M4 and Su-24M with Su-25T cockpit? Quite realistic and give a lot of enjoy especially when you adjust FM.

 

I think a Su-22 with a Su-25T cockpit would be nice, heck, they nearly look the same :)

 

http://www.pixstel.com/su-22m-4-fitter-cockpit_urlb4387.php

[Cali]

I have nothing against what 4c has done. All mods are nice and offer a change to make something better or fix things. But this will be getting into just adding things people want and was never in use. I want someone to mod the AIM-9x then and add that into this joint mod if possible. They can use the R-73 and just re-skin it. Crunch you may be onto something, having some of those mods would be nice. If it's real and have been in use, then I'm all for it. what a squad does with their own server is up to them since they pay for it.

[FLANKERATOR]

Time to maybe have a joint 'must download mod pack to join server' for some of the popular servers. Include locked Tacview, R-27AE, MiG-29K, Helios, Leavu, EFFSSI by Bvoiash etc. Would be nice if 3 or 4 servers did it together.

 

very good idea Crunch! Don't forget please the ADA mod (Mirage 2000-5) which was online compatible in FC1....basicelly it was the Mig29S with a revisited cockpit and following weapons:

R-77 is MICA EM

R-27ET is MICA IR

R-73 is MAGIC II

 

Only people on servers with this mod installed were seeing Mig-29's as Mirage 2000's with according weapons.

It has no effect on the game balance as it has the same FM and same weapons performances with only a different name and skin basically, would be awesome to have this mod back on FC2 and included in the Joint Mod Pack.

 

There is also another mod for the Rafale, it still a WIP AFAIK.

[Pilotasso]

oh boy, the R-27ET hardly has anything to do with a missile of the MICAs class...

[FLANKERATOR]

MICA IR is more advanced for sure, but its capabilities are not implemented in FC, so it would be a downgraded MICA IR actually.

 

As previously mentioned, this mod is only eye candy for M2k lovers!

[Pilotasso]

I meant they are totally different designs without even taking in consideration their relative ages.

Doesnt the MICA IR actually work in FC2 flyable aircraft? :huh:

[FLANKERATOR]

I meant they are totally different designs without even taking in consideration their relative ages.

Doesnt the MICA IR actually work in FC2 flyable aircraft? :huh:

 

It should be working using LOPE, but then you will get it under the wrong flyable aircraft, plus you would not be able to use it online.

 

Different designs for sure in real but work the same way in FC.

 

ADA mod brings it online the right way without scratching the game balance.

[manfrez01]

Thank You for the mod squad 4c.:thumbup:

 

I am testing the features of the new missile and its performance.

One questions that arose and I had me confused.

 

1_ This missile has an active head, which allows to hook the target and follow its course only if you are in a range of 25 Km away from the target? and meanwhile arrives this distance the missile must be guided to reach the active area where the screw head?

 

Regard's