Frostie Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Every time someone gets killed by AIM-120 from a MiG-29G, baby Jesus cries. Just jokin. Yes, it is a bit hypothetical to be sure. A bit hypothetical? Why not put ET's on A-10s thats how hypathetical we are talking. :D "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
borchi_2b Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 ok, to cut this short, the guys who bother about the mig29g should get in contact with alpha from the vjs161. this might be something even for the devs from ED, cause he knows more about this bird then anybody else i know, for many reasons i cannot mention here in puplic. www.vjs161.de is the homepage of the squadron and you might want to contact him. i do not know how soon he will be able to reply though. just to help you guys out about the mig29g and its abilities :-) thats all i can do for you http://www.polychop-sims.com
MoGas Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 MiG-29G doesn't belong in a battle with 27's and 15's, its role is to fly around its own base listening for AWAX intercept calls on deep flying aggressive bad guys. This is the burden for the pilot, if you choose this aircraft thats your lot, no pushing on the offensive. Putting AMRAAMs on it is just plain daft and makes a mockery of serious simming. Killed by 29 carrying 120 sort of kills it for me. :) Every time someone gets killed by AIM-120 from a MiG-29G, baby Jesus cries. Just jokin. Yes, it is a bit hypothetical to be sure. If it proves to be disruptive, we can always retract it and consider it a test. I don't think many people will choose the G regularly though anyhow. Just watch out for a certain sniper from the 104th. Steve, we can let the MiG-29G out of it, I get this noobys who start to cry already without anyway.....no pushing on the offensive.... ;)
ALF7 Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Do u plan adding Mig-29K? [ATTACH]51232[/ATTACH] ? And then the adding F-15E:thumbup: [ATTACH]51231[/ATTACH] Онлайн-MG:joystick: "Страшнее Шилки зверя нет". "ПИСДРУНС СС ПП". "Носи ППК с молоду-любить будешь до старости". "СА-Танки решают все!" "- А мы, старшина, ни за первую и не за вторую… Мы – за третью. За эту… За как её?.. За Родину!" __|77|________:::::: =}- \~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~ NAVAL AVIATION FAN ~~~~~~~
Boberro Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Su-25TM and Su-17M4 are waiting too ^^ Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
104th_Crunch Posted May 7, 2011 Author Posted May 7, 2011 Su-25TM and Su-17M4 are waiting too ^^ Again, other mods require file check to be disabled. This one does not.
prok Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Do u plan adding Mig-29K? mirage and f-16 will be fun. too many rus crafts boring. ★★★ ★★★
VAOZoky Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Again, other mods require file check to be disabled. This one does not. Cant u allow only specific mods? Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.2Ghz, 8GB Kingston HyperX @1.6GHz, Ati Radeon HD7870 2GB GDDR5, 19' 1440x900 screen
Frostie Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Steve, we can let the MiG-29G out of it, I get this noobys who start to cry already without anyway.....no pushing on the offensive.... ;) Its your server you can put what you like on it, if you have a problem with me having an opinion then yes maybe you should take it off. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
MoGas Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Its your server you can put what you like on it, if you have a problem with me having an opinion then yes maybe you should take it off. No, dont worry, we just have our fun with it...:thumbup:
Presing Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Off topic MiG-29K, F/A-18e and F-14d all flyable at VNAO dedicate server. Rocket brigade who retired F-117
RIPTIDE Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Su-25TM and Su-17M4 are waiting too ^^ Su-24M >>Su-25TM and Su-17M4 But the Su-17 has nice power with its triple flame holder. :joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cali Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 It's the 104th server, they can do whatever they want with it, they foot the bill. No matter if people think it's dumb or not. I was asking about R-77's on the 33 cause the Mig got 120's. It would be more realistic for the 33 to have them. Some people have already said they will fly elsewhere and maybe this will bring more people in.....who knows. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
FLANKERATOR Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Server was busy like hell tonight, a big furball, only same drawback as usual when air bases get busy, some racing, overtaking and taking off from taxiways...I really hope something would be done to prevent reckless behaving like that....Other than that, it was AWESOME ;) Situational Awareness: https://sa-sim.com/ | The Air Combat Dojo: https://discord.gg/Rz77eFj
Kuky Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) Server was busy like hell tonight, a big furball, only same drawback as usual when air bases get busy, some racing, overtaking and taking off from taxiways...I really hope something would be done to prevent reckless behaving like that....Other than that, it was AWESOME ;) why? because it's not realistic? :music_whistling: Edited May 7, 2011 by Kuky PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Cali Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Server was busy like hell tonight, a big furball, only same drawback as usual when air bases get busy, some racing, overtaking and taking off from taxiways...I really hope something would be done to prevent reckless behaving like that....Other than that, it was AWESOME ;) Nothing can be done to fix that, people don't follow procedures. It has been like that when lock on came out and it will always be like that in a open server. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
FLANKERATOR Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 why? because it's not realistic? :music_whistling: you people amase me... Yes because it's not realistic and because it's annoying also. I flew with R-77's on my Flanker tonight and it felt way more realistic. What is amazing is that you still posting here after having annouced that you wont fly on the 104th server anymore. Other servers do not have these mods "yet" so you still can fly wherever you wish without posting pointless discredits here. Situational Awareness: https://sa-sim.com/ | The Air Combat Dojo: https://discord.gg/Rz77eFj
FLANKERATOR Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Nothing can be done to fix that, people don't follow procedures. It has been like that when lock on came out and it will always be like that in a open server. That's sad indeed, only solution would be to warn/kick offenders manually from time to time. Situational Awareness: https://sa-sim.com/ | The Air Combat Dojo: https://discord.gg/Rz77eFj
Kuky Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Yes because it's not realistic and because it's annoying also. I flew with R-77's on my Flanker tonight and it felt way more realistic. What is amazing is that you still posting here after having annouced that you wont fly on the 104th server anymore. Other servers do not have these mods "yet" so you still can fly wherever you wish without posting pointless discredits here. you don't know if you wanna do the No1 or No2 oh and I will not be flying in server that has this crap that's for sure and I'm also sure others will not follow this ridicule of flight sim like 120's on MiG etc etc, you guys have lost the plot PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Pilotasso Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Saw no difference in tactics and kill ratios, at least not for me. However it feels like HAWX now, which is fine for a while. I suggest make it a theme week just like the 80's. Too bad that one went unused. .
FLANKERATOR Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 This is mod has not been released for balancing purposes. It has been made available to the community for realism purposes. Those who think it will change the game balance are wrong. It's the same weapon after all, the R-77, only launching platform is different. While not having enough information about the Mig-29G AMRAAM capability, it still has no effect on the game balance in FC2 normal server. The 120B is basically the same as the R-77, so that's very similar to the usual MiG-29S with R-77's tactically speaking. Furthermore, the MiG29S is better since the R-77 turns harder than the 120B while having the same range. The only difference would be on Team vs Team Fighter sweep match with TOS and CAP duration parameters, obviously Flankers with R-77's would be more challenging for the F-15's. Situational Awareness: https://sa-sim.com/ | The Air Combat Dojo: https://discord.gg/Rz77eFj
Pilotasso Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 It wasnt for realism. Just check first post of this thread. What is your agenda?? We are pleased to introduce the R-77 for Su-27 & MiG-29G NATO Mod for our server. We hope you enjoy these weapons and the change to tactics for these 2 jets it will bring. While we know that the R-77 on the Su-27 modelled in FC2 has never been combat deployed, other versions of the Su-27 are able to use the R-77. So, while not 100% accurate, it is not a far fetched concept. The mod also includes our previous KAB-500kr and KH-29T mod for the Su-27. .
FLANKERATOR Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 While we know that the R-77 on the Su-27 modelled in FC2 has never been combat deployed, other versions of the Su-27 are able to use the R-77. So, while not 100% accurate, it is not a far fetched concept. The mod also includes our previous KAB-500kr and KH-29T mod for the Su-27. The MiG-29G has been upgraded by NATO to include the AIM-120B and AGM-65D A2G missile, so this mod also replicates that. Looks like YOU need to read it again. Game balance, now agenda...quite funny. Situational Awareness: https://sa-sim.com/ | The Air Combat Dojo: https://discord.gg/Rz77eFj
GGTharos Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 It's definitely not for realism since the Su-27S cannot deliver the R-77. As Crunch pointed out, it is for fun, period, end of story and fair enough. Not to mention you lost your 'realism' plot when babbling about the MiG ;) Looks like YOU need to read it again. Game balance, now agenda...quite funny. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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