Nybble Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Just a quick question, probably a simple answer. When firing the Maverick, is it possible to maintain a view though the seeker head via the MFCD until the Maverick makes contact with the target. Thanks in advance! DCS Multiplayer Highlights Reel -
shu77 Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I don't believe the Mav sends a signal back to the targeting aircraft. The Targeting pod is your best bet as it can be used to get a view of the target at Time of impact, personally I use the missile vies (F5 or F6) and watch the missile ride in. 1 Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools
MTFDarkEagle Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 You mean stay watching the camera on the mav that's going to the target? If yes: not possible. *Sniped ;) 1 Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
159th_Viper Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 No - not built like that, unfortunately. At best you have F6 view :) Edit: Good Lawd - Sniped twice over! :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Nybble Posted June 10, 2011 Author Posted June 10, 2011 Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up. I've seen countess A10c videos on the internet where this is the case, is it somthing they may still be working to implement or am I all out wrong? DCS Multiplayer Highlights Reel -
159th_Viper Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 ....or am I all out wrong? That's it. The Maverick never has had a live feed from the seeker to the launching platform/other receiver. Have you a link to those vids so we can explain? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
mvsgas Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Just a quick question, probably a simple answer. When firing the Maverick, is it possible to maintain a view though the seeker head via the MFCD until the Maverick makes contact with the target. Thanks in advance! Many people get confused by videos online. Videos of bombs seeker until impact are normally from the GBU-15 or AGM-130 Occasionally it might be a AGM-62 or AGM-142 video. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Helios Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Personally I prefer using TGP (though you get only the impact, not the trajectory). As the typical method of deploying the maverick is to first lock up the target on TGP and set SPI, and then switch to Mav view and slave to SPI to align the seeker, there is already a camera pointed in the area where the action is going to be. After launching a mav I typically egress in a direction which keeps target in TGP field-of-view, usually keeping the target at around 160 degrees, switch back to TGP (which is already slewed to the target) and look for an impact. It's more fun and feels a lot more "real" than the F6-view, or relying on the sim to inform you something was hit. Obviously, cluster bombs are even more fun to watch ;-) ASUS Maximus IV Extreme B3 | Intel i7-2600K | 16GB DDR3 1600MHz | GeForce GTX 580 1536MB | Corsair SSD 128GB | TrackIR4 Pro | Saitek X52 Pro | CH Pro Pedals | Win7 x64
SmokeyTheLung Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 There are a few pieces of footage out there showing the seeker view as the MAV tracks a target. I'm assuming that this footage is from the early stages of Maverick testing. It confused me as well when I first found those shots :) Nice link Mvsgas, can't wait to see those in a DCS sim System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
Mule Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 When i fire off a Mav i switch to TGP straight away as has been stated above. Yesterday i was doing the Smerch mission and i fired a Mav off at a Scud switched to TGP and when the missile impacted a few seconds later i could see 2 men running away from the scene through the TGP that was one of them massive grining moments i have found myself doing a lot lately after flying this awesome sim. :) Sorry to go off topic slightly there. Yeah i have seen older footage of what looks like Mavericks feeding a live feed back until impact but i think these are from earlier genaration missiles the name of them escape me now but they were TV guided munitions. Fighter Pilot Podcast.
GGTharos Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Yes, that's the telemetry instrumentation from testing. There is/was also a project for a datalinked maverick capability, but AFAIK so far it has not been funded, but I believe it has been tested. This would increase the cost of Maverick significantly since you'd need the telemetry hardware plus the appropriate datalink pod onboard the aircraft. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
SmokeyTheLung Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 ^^^^ That, plus you'd lose one of the mavericks best selling points: a true fire and forget weapon System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
GGTharos Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 It would still be fire and forget. The idea behind the datalinked operation was to make it capable of attacking targets from its maximum kinematic range of 20+ nm. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
sobek Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 It would still be fire and forget. The idea behind the datalinked operation was to make it capable of attacking targets from its maximum kinematic range of 20+ nm. So it would be LOAL? Doesn't that somehow contradict being fire and forget? :) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
GGTharos Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 You can still fire it and then forget about it :D Yep, it would be LOAL, but as soon as you lock it on, you can leave it be. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
SmokeyTheLung Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 You can still fire it and then forget about it :D Sounds like something I might do... :) In the sim, the smaller of the MAV variants seem to blow up after about 10nm of flight. Is this accurate? System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
GGTharos Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 No, it might be a generic effect of the missile code as it is currently (basically a 'lifetime' after which the missile self-destructs. The real thing would safe itself and fall to the ground). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Depth Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 That's it. The Maverick never has had a live feed from the seeker to the launching platform/other receiver. Have you a link to those vids so we can explain? This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMW__1HZ5zQ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jazjar Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 You must be thinking of the AGM-62 Walleye. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hassata Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMW__1HZ5zQ That looks like a weapons-test situation. [edit: If that is in fact a 65], maybe they rigged it so to monitor? Edited June 21, 2011 by hassata [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Forest Rat Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 The footage looks like it's from Combat Hammer .... Same as this video: "The weapons testing program, known as Combat Hammer, is part of the Air Force's ongoing effort to test weapons systems in training missions that also prepare air crews for upcoming deployments."
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