Graphics ?

[Timm]

Hi EtherealN, Thanks a lot for all this info on cards. The update is I have gone for the ASUS Nvidia ENGTX560 PCI-E 2.0 Graphics Card - 1GB along with a suitable power pack. Regards Timm

Edited November 13, 2011 by Timm

[EtherealN]

Sounds good. Should transform your experience with the game. :)

 

If you need help with pointers for installing the equipment, let me know.

[Timm]

I will take you up on that :thumbup:

[fangav]

Don't what to muddy the waters but here is my rig and I have every game setting on as high as its goes including water and civ traffic,cockpit res =1024.

Even with the shkval on the sim runs very smooth, before and after "Alt Tab"

 

OPS: Windows 7 64-bit

Processor: Intel Core i7- 950 @ 3.06ghz

Installed Memory: 6GB DDR3

Hard disk space: Enough, just

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460

DirectX latest version

 

I would have through Timm's machine would be comparable to my and should run BS2 fine.

 

 

OPS: Windows 7 64-bit

Processor: Intel Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz

Installed Memory: 8GB DDR3

Hard disk space: PLENTY

NVIDIA GeForce GT520 1G

DirectX 9.0c

[213]

it runs better in all instances except foggy weather.

[Luigi Gorgonzola]

Seems as if nVidia copes (way) better with BS2?

 

Tried to fly Dragon's "Bad Weather" training mission today with my dual 5770 setup (Cat11.10, 8GB RAM, i5 2500K@default, W7 x64). Tried. At about 7 or 8 fps (according to the built-in counter), it was no more fun at all.

 

No more Heat Blur, no HDR, no Mirrors, med Visibility, all other setting @ med - trying to find some more performance boosters (hey, BF3@high runs smooth!)

[EtherealN]

I would have through Timm's machine would be comparable to my and should run BS2 fine.

 

Sir, having a bigger number on the GPU does not automatically mean better GPU. A 460 is leagues more powerful than a 520. ;)

[StoOopiD]

Did you try reinstall or repair c++ also try repair of the dotfx4.0 repair also

Google .40netframework. This sound like a hard drive cache failure.

I had this and it makes a strange noise not on the hard drives companies detection list.

Also do not install in win7x 64 C:/programs/ make sure it's in another folder, I.e

C:/games/

 

 

i dont understand the win7 64 install mythlogy? mine is in C:/programs/

[71st_Mastiff]

i dint understand the win7 64 install mythlogy? mine is in C:/programs/

 

win 7x64 bit security policy or (UAC, which is never really off) does not let you easily file swap and read/write easily to the OS's C:\program files any more.

 

so files that are constantly writing to that area, need to be free to do this, so you have to move it out of there and place in a more easily write/read folder. (this is my understanding)

[naz]

Well i think that my system isnt slow, but wth high graphics my FPS are between 18-24 fps. With medium they are on 25-40 FPS.

 

OS: Win7 64bit

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3,4

GPU: MSI TwinFrorzII GTX570

RAM: 8 GIG

Board: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO

Drivers: up to date

 

So normally i would think that this system should handle BS2 on high graphics without any problems, but it seems iam wrong :(.

[71st_Mastiff]

Well i think that my system isnt slow, but wth high graphics my FPS are between 18-24 fps. With medium they are on 25-40 FPS.

 

OS: Win7 64bit

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3,4

GPU: MSI TwinFrorzII GTX570

RAM: 8 GIG

Board: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO

Drivers: up to date

 

So normally i would think that this system should handle BS2 on high graphics without any problems, but it seems iam wrong :(.

 

your system should be playing BS2 with at least 32 to 60

 

Im on a GTX 580 and get 35 to 60 with two USB monitors; check your Nvidia drivers maybe a fresh install im using 285.79 betas. and running in high performace not quality.

[StoOopiD]

imo, BS2 lag is more of a cpu bottleneck than a graphics card issue. from the new tree shadows, highly populated AI, AI smoke effects and so on.

 

its not the same as the A10 engine. which runs butter smooth on my rig.

[press]

One thing that matters is how well was your Windows OS maintained. Scanned for mall ware, spyware, viruses, etc and defragmented or what programs run in the background (winamp, yahoo messenger, antivirus programs) while you play BS. All of these things are eating resources.

 

I have an Intel Q9550 with GForce 8800GTS, 4Gb of Ram and WinVista. BS2 runs with +35fps in a mission with a sunny day, and ~15fps when it's cloudy.

 

I scan my pc regularly and maintain my Windows OS as clean as possible. Also I have to say that the install is almost 2 years old.

 

Keep your Windows clean and BS2 can run with ok FPS.

[71st_Mastiff]

dont forget pcregistry cleaner also.

[Mustang]

Also check that you aren't forcing any AA or AF settings from your display driver, always use Application Preference and use the settings from within the sim.

[wess24m]

I'm not understanding the deal with frame rates either, i'm running I7 990x extreme processor and have a gtx 580 with 16 gigs of ram, I can run bf3, fsx, crysis 2 at the same time and i'm getting 60+ fps with all those games (running 1920x1080 all max settings) but BS2 and A-10 running at max gets around 30 fps by itself. Doesn't make alot of sense.

[213]

hi, i explain this phenomenon based on my experimentation with vehicles:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1330576#post1330576

[Timm]

Hi Guys,

Well I have just installed a new card and a new power supply and what a difference they have made. BS2 is now a dream to fly and view. Everything is so much smoother inside and out. My thanks goes to all who helped in this matter especially EtherealN for is support throughout. Even FSX has come alive with everything max out. I THANK YOU ALL. :thumbup:

 

OPS: Windows 7 64-bit

Processor: Intel Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz

Installed Memory: 8GB DDR3

Hard disk space: PLENTY

NVIDIA GeForce GTX560

Corsia GS700 Power Supply

DirectX 9.0c

TrackIR 5

Edited November 16, 2011 by Timm

[BS_Fighter]

In all the tips you should remember here the fundamental problem - The still old DCS Engine (although HDR... pimped)!

This is simply at high quality setting on the border. Let's see how to circumvent this problem in the Nevada map. Even this can't indeed be a "new" engine if it run on BS2/A-10C base...

[TheCabal]

It's funny sometimes that people (like me and others I know), who are able to fly FSX on Ultra with every slider maxed (Graphics, Traffic, Buildings, Trees, dozens of Extrem Graphic/Scenery enhancement and high detailed realistic Plane mods etc.) have great fps but choppy fps in Blackshark with just 1/5 of the graphic which FSX delivers.

 

 

Sometimes you can really get tired with all the endless new graphic effects and hardware releases and hours of tuning AND XXX of wasted money as a hardcore simmer....

 

The way I achieved high fps in FSX is thanks due to someone who converted the textures to another format. Question is... why Microsoft didn't made it directly that way. I remember how unpleasant the flying experience was right after FSX was released.

Edited November 18, 2011 by TheCabal

[EtherealN]

Cabal, stop thinking that FPS is only a question of graphics. It isn't. If you give the simulation engine too much to do, it won't feed data fast enough to the graphics engine, and FPS slows down - NOT because the graphics are being too big of a deal, but because the simulation engine needs more resources than you have available to give it.

[TheCabal]

Hi Ethereal,

 

I know that simulating stuff is not only about graphics. I'm just no fan of all the hardware madness I was observing since 3Dfx... buying expensive hardware just to go full speed in lets say 20-30% of the time (when playing games, flying simulators) till you buy another computer. It's like buying a Ferrari for city driving and for driving on highways with no speed limit just 2 times a week till you have to buy another because isn't able to drive faster than 400km/h and the government prohibites all cars below 400km/h. (lets precict that it is like that). ;) Since you can't just easily but another motor in (lets predict again...) ... you have to buy every component again =|

 

I hope we don't need another room at home in 40 years just for a computer.

Edited November 18, 2011 by TheCabal

[EtherealN]

I disagree. You get the hardware you need for the job, and you don't need particularly expensive hardware either. My current machine costs less than a thousand dollars and maxes out the simulator quite fine, and will continue to do so for quite a while. I am an early upgrader (I usually replace my machines with a 2 year interval), and even in that case it comes down to roughly 41 dollars per month.

 

Simulators like this simply require a lot of CPU power, particularly good single-thread operation.

 

And my mention is prompted by the fact that you talked specifically about FSX graphics. Which, I would like to remind you, is more than 5 years old and does not have a requirement to model a lot of things that are specific to combat. ;)

 

If you mean the specific case gone through in this thread, then it's a lot simpler: the graphics card Timm had was simply not meant to run games. It's the "bottom of the barrel" as far as nVidia cards go. (But unfortunately, both nVidia and AMD are not above advertising game graphics even for such cards, which unfortunately can be a honeytrap for those who are not hardware nerds like me.) Further, several tester team members play these simulators just fine on hardware that is 4 years old or more. They have to sacrifice some settings and don't max it all out, but since when would you expect to max out a new product on a 4+ years old computer? ;)

Edited November 18, 2011 by EtherealN

[StoOopiD]

making sure the texture filtering optimizations are on in the nvidia driver worked for me.

 

running high performance mode made a huge difference

[Dusan56]

Screen Hunter software

 

Since in previous discussion wss mentioned screen capturing I'd like to recommend below software:

http://screenhunter-free.en.softonic.com/

 

It's free program (basic version). Allows to take jpg format from any part of screen. Don't need to, but it's possible, to take whole screen. Software can be accessible by using hot key. I have it in the back all the time. I put this post also to Screenshots and Videos forum.:thumbup: