Future Projects Road Map

[Pyroflash]

I think that the P-51 could be a wonderous addition to a modern battlefield. Give it a couple of new systems to bring it up to speed and its high loiter time, fuel efficiency, and decently high speed will in itself make Flying Legends worth buying.

 

Plus.. Haters gonna' hate :)

[Divide Et Impera]

Dogfight in MP with other people...a lot better than fighting AI anyways...

 

I think that dogfighting p51 vs p51 Will be very fun .. 5/6 Times ? But make à payware for this ?? Its completly un realistic . If they add other planes and à Europe or pacific or etc map i'm in .

 

But définitly you 'll havé to pay me to dogfight like this hours above Georgia or Nevada. Without me Again . As BS2 as JTAC . But impatient for Nevada and next module : those are interesting

[Cowboy10uk]

Only one question, I thought Ed only mentioned they were developing a aircraft in DCS flying legends.

 

Where has the P51 come from?

 

Flying legends owns many different aircraft, it could be anyone.

 

Not saying its a bad idea, in fact whatever it is, I will be purchasing, however it starting to sound like the P51 has been confirmed, which as far as I'm aware it hasn't. ( apologies if I missed this if true )

 

Good things come to those who wait, Ed have never let us down with their aircraft choices yet, so I see no reason to be concerned.

 

Cowboy10uk

[Hellfire257]

Outstanding! Does this mean I might see a Mustang!? :D

[EtherealN]

Not saying its a bad idea, in fact whatever it is, I will be purchasing, however it starting to sound like the P51 has been confirmed, which as far as I'm aware it hasn't. ( apologies if I missed this if true )

 

The talk of P51 is, essentially, speculation. At this time there have been no official confirmation of which aircraft it is.

[Hellfire257]

Wags used to have an F-86 avatar...it could be that too actually. Does TFC have a Sabre?

[EtherealN]

Hellfire, Matt's avatars were changed frequently, and started with an AT-802U.

 

Make of it what you will. :)

[bluepilot76]

From the website, The FLying Legends seems to be an airshow organised by The Fighter Collection.

 

All of TFC aircraft are prop. I wonder whether The Flying Legends Airshow aircraft can include jets.

 

I am thinking L39. There was some very detailed models of L39 in recent video that Wags introduced here.

 

L39 would be useful addition.

 

Or maybe MiG15. That definately is a legend, and conceviably could be put into the air by some rebel group in the current theater.

 

A good use for P51 I think would be Reno style races in the new theater. Not much to do with DCS concept though

[element1108]

There is a HUGE WWII Market out there. If DCS Flying Legends is WWII or COLD war ?? There will be an audience for it. It's a great way to capture that audience and generate more income for the company ensuring it's continued success is a good thing for us simmers.

 

For those who don't like WWII planes (assuming it is a WWII plane) that's fine, but there are LOADS who love them and would pounce on the opportunity to fly a WWII from the same company that's producing the best modern combat flight sims today.

 

To think, we'll have 10 airframes to fly in an online environment. Air to air, air to ground and a fricken helicopter. No modern air combat sim has given us that amount of airframes to play with under one roof.

 

If they build it, people will buy it...despite it being "your thing" or not. If it's got wings an engine and has guns....many will "fly it".

Edited November 14, 2011 by element1108

[LostOblivion]

FEW HOURS of multiplayer ? have you ever played BF 3 ? its the best combat simulation ever .. and its life is infinite ..

 

You have to be joking? I enjoy playing BF3, it is a genius game and I have played it for many hours, but IT IS NOT A COMBAT SIMULATOR!

 

On the topic of the announced DCS: Flying Legends. I doubt ED's intention was to put this into context with the other aircraft that will currently be available to fly once all the titles have been made compatible. Rather, it is a great addition to the ranks of legendary aircraft that makes up the history of flight aviation. Adding an aircraft such as the P-51 to DCS would mean that they are now aiming even higher for what a true simulator is, namely a virtual real world where players may do things they would not otherwise be able to, which includes flying events like airshows. Many of us have found that DCS is not just a great combat simulator, it is also very able to give us the immersion into plain flying, which cannot be found anywhere else with the same level of detail and flight model fidelity.

 

Modern day real world combat does not see a flying legends aircraft in action, but they are such an important part of tradition and history that modelling such an aircraft with all the fidelity of the DCS standard would be a great addition to DCS in its own right. I think it is a great idea, and I am looking eagerly forward to flying any aircraft that is labeled a flying legend.

 

Besides, you could always put some T-55s down in the desert around Nevada and have some fun with them -- they are WW2 endwar era tanks. ;)

 

Lost

Edited November 14, 2011 by LostOblivion

[EtherealN]

Guys, no need to call each other names. Discussion is fine, but keep it civil.

[kylania]

From the website, The FLying Legends seems to be an airshow organised by The Fighter Collection.

 

All of TFC aircraft are prop. I wonder whether The Flying Legends Airshow aircraft can include jets.

 

I am thinking L39.

 

There's a P-51B folder in the Black Shark install. ED has confirmed they are modelling a plane of a model they no longer own. They used to have a P-51B. Just saying. :)

[bartleby]

Exciting news. Return of battlefield commander is neat - I joined the beta right after it got taken out and never got a chance to try it. Seems like a natural extension of CAS planes. Looking forward to more details. I'm sure there's an interesting story to the development...

 

I guess Flying Legends is going to be a WWII-era prop plane? I admit to being a little less interested in that particular aspect of simming, but the fact that ED is potentially making study (?) sims for planes NOT under military contracts opens up a lot of future possibilities. What I'm trying to say is that Phantoms are legends, too!

[LostOblivion]

Yea, and as masterk stated, getting access to detailed information on old planes is a piece of cake compared to modern aircraft under classification, etc.

[Nate--IRL--]

Yea, and as masterk stated, getting access to detailed information on old planes is a piece of cake compared to modern aircraft under classification, etc.

 

It's even easier if you own them.

 

Nate

[EtherealN]

Especially own them as airworthy. :P

 

It's not easy to verify the accuracy of a flight model if you can't get your hands on someone who operates them.

 

EDIT: Though... there are still operational F-4's and MiG-21's... Vietnam anyone? :D

Edited November 14, 2011 by EtherealN

[LostOblivion]

Nate, that old dusty lawn-mover in your garage does not count! :P

 

Especially own them as airworthy.

 

It's not easy to verify the accuracy of a flight model if you can't get your hands on someone who operates them.

 

There are many lucky bastards who own one of the WW2 era aircraft are there not? All ED has to do is contact one of them, or better yet, become one of them, or even better yet, if what Nate says is true, then that is already the case. :)

Edited November 14, 2011 by LostOblivion

[bluepilot76]

Yeah it seems most likely but I was just trying to think out of the box.

 

I mean has anyone ever correctly predicted what the next DCS release was going to be?

 

ED seem to be masters of security. Better than governments...No leaks. Seems strange that they would slip up here with the P51 folder. Might be a red herring! FWIW I dont mind what they do next. Lots of things I would like, but whatever, looking forward to it.

[EtherealN]

There are many lucky bastards who own one of the WW2 era aircraft are there not? All ED has to do is contact one of them, or better yet, become one of them, or even better yet, if what Nate says is true, then that is already the case. :)

 

I'm sure you've heard of this company called "TFC". They publish DCS and Flaming Cliffs.

 

TFC owns:

 

Bearcat

Corsair

Curtiss P-40B

Gladiator

Harvard

Hawk

Hellcat

Mustang TF-51D

Nimrod

Spitfire V

Spitfire XIV

Staggerwing

Wildcat

 

Those are all flying. There's also the below undergoing restorations:

 

Beaufighter

CR.42

La-11

Sea Fury

Spitfire IX

Spitfire XXII

Thunderbolt P-47G

 

In fact, the "Flying Legends" is a recurring airshow at TFC homeplate at Duxford.

http://fighter-collection.com/legendstrailer.html

[Newt]

First, all of this news sounds great! I hope that these additions bring more people to these amazing sims. (Proper people, of course; we don't want the wrong crowd... We want a good strong community with many people, but I don't want to see ED's sims fall the way the original Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon series did, for example. I don't want DCS Hawx X_X Oh, how the Tom Clancy name has fallen...)

 

But, I trust ED to make sure that doesn't happen to their sims.

 

Anyway, does anyone know if the "road map" provided by wags is in a chronological order? I assume not, but I was just curious.

 

P.s. no offense to any that like Hawx or what R6 or GR turned into. I'm just saying that those games went from sims to action shooters and I, personally, was very disappointed by that. (Well, Hawx was never a sim. lol)

Edited November 14, 2011 by Newt

[Yo-Yo]

Yeah it seems most likely but I was just trying to think out of the box.

 

I mean has anyone ever correctly predicted what the next DCS release was going to be?

 

ED seem to be masters of security. Better than governments...No leaks. Seems strange that they would slip up here with the P51 folder. Might be a red herring! FWIW I dont mind what they do next. Lots of things I would like, but whatever, looking forward to it.

 

In USSR we had four grades of security:

 

the first grade presumes that engineers of the research institute A know nothing about the work of plant B engineers;

the second grade presumes that engineers of the department A know nothing about work of department B engineers within the same research inctitute;

the third grade presumes that engineers know nothing about the work other engeneers of the same department do;

and the highest grade presumes that the engineer himself does not know what he is doing.

[Pyroflash]

The funny part is that you think that was a joke. We call them theoretical physicists in order to make them feel important.

Edited November 14, 2011 by Pyroflash

[Speed]

In USSR we had four grades of security:

 

the first grade presumes that engineers of the research institute A know nothing about the work of plant B engineers;

the second grade presumes that engineers of the department A know nothing about work of department B engineers within the same research inctitute;

the third grade presumes that engineers know nothing about the work other engeneers of the same department do;

and the highest grade presumes that the engineer himself does not know what he is doing.

 

In the US, we have a fifth, higher grade of security; it's called "Lead Pursuit". :D

 

Also, don't forget the security grade for the most secret of secrets- it's called "Wikileaks".

Edited November 14, 2011 by Speed

[ARM505]

If it is a P51, they're going to have to compete with A2A simulations P51 for FSX, the release of which is imminent, and which is looking VERY promising.

 

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=26491

[sobek]

If it is a P51, they're going to have to compete with A2A simulations P51 for FSX, the release of which is imminent, and which is looking VERY promising.

 

Even if it were, there are other things to consider:

 

DCS is usable out of the box, while with FSX many invest a lot of money into mods to make it enjoyable.

 

Most importantly, DCS is a combat simulation from ground up while for FSX, this has to be bolted on.