Frogisis Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) Frogisis,A2A with Accu-sim is really the only reason I still have FSX on my hard drive.It's fantastic! Just watched some of the B-17 vids on the A2A site and dang. That is impressive. Hmm, my dad actually sent me FSX last year for Christmas and it's been sitting in my closet pretty much this whole time (I think I asked for health insurance). I might have to take it out again and reinstall it. Can you actually fight (or otherwise have adventures) in these addon planes, or do you just fly around and challenge yourself with the mechanics of it? Orbiter is pretty much the only "just fly around" sim I can get into, and that's because it's in space and very different from atmospheric, 1-planet flight - Chilling in the back of an airliner or the occasional Cessna joyride scratch the itch to just be in the air for me (even if air travel does sometimes make me wish for Orbiter's 100,000x time acceleration). Speaking of shifts in time, some people in this thread (Nate, was it?) have implicitly said as much, so I'm sure the first of the Legendary planes will also be given something appropriate to do, beyond just throwing it into "Philadelphia Experiment"-style craziness where you see how many P-51s you can take on simultaneously in an F-15 or other schoolyard thought experiments. Anyway, looking forward to seeing and hearing more. Especially intrigued by the "battlefield commander" component, which I'm sure will have to touch on all kinds of invisible aspects of the DCS world and open up unexpected avenues to mission creators as well. Edited November 15, 2011 by Frogisis For when it goes wrong: Win10x64, GTX1080, Intel i7 @3.5 GHz, 32GB DDR3, Warthog HOTAS, Saitek combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5 / Vive Pro, a case of Pabst, The Funk
hog_driver111th Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Like this: Or This: A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
bluepilot76 Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 This aerotractor idea, and super tucano whatever, is surely dead in the water. We already have a slow air to ground machine - its called the A-10C. Technical Specs: Asus G73JW gaming laptop... i7-740QM 1.73GHz ... GTX460m 1.5GB ... 8GB DDR5 RAM ... Win7 64 ... TIR5 ... Thrustmaster T16000m
Ali Fish Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 It's called "Flying legends", not "Flying aircraft that is completely unknown to all but aviation afficionados". :megalol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Guest Fury_007 Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Two-seater helicopter such as Apache for some awesome coop missions ala BF3 helicopter coop. There are plenty of ways they could make the AH-64 single player compatible. Think of track-ir controlling the chain gun like the eye scanner in the real thing... Before you say it... I know bf3 is not a sim.
sobek Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 This aerotractor idea Somebody took the bait. Quick Ethereal, puuuullllll!! :) 1 Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
bluepilot76 Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Damn! Hook Line and Sinker! You never know with flight sim nuts though. Buggin Out. Technical Specs: Asus G73JW gaming laptop... i7-740QM 1.73GHz ... GTX460m 1.5GB ... 8GB DDR5 RAM ... Win7 64 ... TIR5 ... Thrustmaster T16000m
lawndartleo Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Two-seater helicopter such as Apache for some awesome coop missions ala BF3 helicopter coop. There are plenty of ways they could make the AH-64 single player compatible. Think of track-ir controlling the chain gun like the eye scanner in the real thing... Before you say it... I know bf3 is not a sim. Apache may be a non starter for market reasons... Combat Helo. Why compete in an already limited market Yes, vaporware...but so is all else until it materializes. If I had one choice of aircraft for Eagle to make and then nothing, ever again...if they could do a two seater... Apache of course... If single seater... Charlie Hornet.
104th_Crunch Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) Or This: As cool as this pic looks, what are we going to do? Fly A-10s around with P-51s? I guess we have to wait and see. Even if it is just a plane that you can take out for a ride and not combat, I suppose it will still be a nice diversion, and I am sure the modelling of the legends aircraft by ED will be second to none. Edited November 15, 2011 by Crunch
wess24m Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 I'd be excited about the "future projects roadmap" if one of the first projects was to create a stable release of any of their software. I understand that a-10c is still beta but how about blackshark? I've had constant crashes and things not working correctly and I've owned both tiltles since the first weeks they've been out. If blackshark is any indication of quality of the work that we can expect from A-10c then I for one won't be supporting any future developments from this company. I know theres been discussion about us having to pay for things that should be an included patch (regardless of it only being $20 bucks), BS2 and now the Nevada map which was stated in the first releases that would be included in the stock a-10c package. Sometimes I wonder if DCS and ED team are a partners of phone companys, I would not be surprised if they started charging for forum access (prob shouldn't give them any ideas) seems like if this was anything else (your car, your cell phone) charging for things that should have been included for proper operation would cause a uproar. Releasing this in beta is giving DCS not only free beta testers but also charging us for having the "pleasure" of testing their (as of the latest patch) mostly unplayable sim. I'm not sure if there are funding problems with the project but I don't like poor planning on their part to translate to costing us more for features promised. This might be all well and fine for commercial training software but for the general public we don't have a blank check to write.
MTFDarkEagle Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 I understand that a-10c is still beta... Que? I know theres been discussion about us having to pay for things that should be an included patch BS2 is not a "patch"! Nevada map which was stated in the first releases that would be included in the stock a-10c package. That's why your getting it free if you prepurchased A-10C. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
wess24m Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Que? BS2 is not a "patch"! That's why your getting it free if you prepurchased A-10C. I'd consider it a patch when It just improves things that were in the original sim, The fact that you get that if you pre-purchased the game doesn't negate the fact that DCS is making things a "upgrade" as opposed to including it for the rest of the people that are just getting into it. I love the sim just frustrating when after all the time it's been out it has such bad stability. 1
Revelation Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) I'd be excited about the "future projects roadmap" if one of the first projects was to create a stable release of any of their software. I understand that a-10c is still beta but how about blackshark? I've had constant crashes and things not working correctly and I've owned both tiltles since the first weeks they've been out. If blackshark is any indication of quality of the work that we can expect from A-10c then I for one won't be supporting any future developments from this company. Your choice, sure there are bugs and crashes from time to time, but far less than I experienced with Rage or BF3, let alone Falcon 4.0 or any of the Jane's series. This is very complex software, it is unavoidable to have a bug or two... I know theres been discussion about us having to pay for things that should be an included patch (regardless of it only being $20 bucks), BS2 and now the Nevada map which was stated in the first releases that would be included in the stock a-10c package. Ah, but they never did... Where are you getting this information from? It was stated that the Nevada map would be free to pre-orders. If you pre-ordered, then you will get it, if you didn't then I'm sorry, but that is the way it is... If you want it done differently put up the money to fund the DCS and you'll get to call the shots then. Sometimes I wonder if DCS and ED team are a partners of phone companys, I would not be surprised if they started charging for forum access (prob shouldn't give them any ideas) seems like if this was anything else (your car, your cell phone) charging for things that should have been included for proper operation would cause a uproar. Releasing this in beta is giving DCS not only free beta testers but also charging us for having the "pleasure" of testing their (as of the latest patch) mostly unplayable sim. Now you're just being cynical and rude; be careful cause you're treading on the verge of violating the forum rules. Temporary bans are handed out, I know it's happened to me before, learned my lesson and moved on. Besides everything you covered has been discussed countless times and it's time to let a dead horse rest in peace.... I'm not sure if there are funding problems with the project but I don't like poor planning on their part to translate to costing us more for features promised. This might be all well and fine for commercial training software but for the general public we don't have a blank check to write. Funding problems aren't your concern, it's the concern of ED and TFC. They are a business not a charity, again if you disagree with the way things are done or the business model they use then you can pony up the cash, fund the development, and dictate the details. Edited November 15, 2011 by Revelation 1 Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
wess24m Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Your choice, sure there are bugs and crashes from time to time, but far less than I experienced with Rage or BF3, let alone Falcon 4.0 or any of the Jane's series. This is very complex software, it is unavoidable to have a bug or two... Ah, but they never did... Where are you getting this information from? It was stated that the Nevada map would be free to pre-orders. If you pre-ordered, then you will get it, if you didn't then I'm sorry, but that is the way it is... If you want it done differently put up the money to fund the DCS and you'll get to call the shots then. Now you're just being cynical and rude; be careful cause you're treading on the verge of violating the forum rules. Temporary bans are handed out, I know it's happened to me before, learned my lesson and moved on. Besides everything you covered has been discussed countless times and it's time to let a dead horse rest in peace.... Funding problems aren't your concern, it's the concern of ED and TFC. They are a business not a charity, again if you disagree with the way things are done or the business model they use then you can pony up the cash, fund the development, and dictate the details. The reason we do get the Nevada "upgrade" is because it was included with the pre-release, if they'd like to ban me for putting my 2 cents in then so be it. A bug or two isn't the issue, it's that its mostly buggy and getting worse with every patch, as you know this isn't really a i have a quick minute to play, you have to gear up your track ir and do your setup, waste of time when your in the middle of a mission and get a CTD. I also have bf3 and skyrim and have yet to have a crash, all your doing is making excuses for this software and we as users of this sim don't need somebody that isn't even involved with the development of the sim (aside from being free beta testers as we all are) making excuses for them. We are all "funding" this project unless you pirated the the sim, so i don't see where your coming from with that comment. I also play falcon BMS and it's rock solid both SP and MP, havn't had any issues at all. As far as not my concern, It is when anything they do is going to start costing us more in order to have a functional sim.
wess24m Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 For the record I was just stating that I hope they (DCS) keep priority on finishing the existing sim's they have out before starting new projects. Didn't mean to turn this into a flame thread, I do enjoy both sims i've bought, just vented a bit to much, my bad i guess.
GGTharos Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 You could have said just that - but in any case, ED is aware of the reported problems and a hot fix is being worked on. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
miguelaco Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 You could have said just that - but in any case, ED is aware of the reported problems and a hot fix is being worked on. Wonderful news!!
enigma6584 Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 If I were to guess at the flying legends aircraft or series...I would pick what others in this thread have mentioned. F-86 Sabre Mig-17 Mig-19 Mig-21 F-104 F-4 Phantom I personally would be surprised if ED did WW2 era aircraft...I wouldn't mind flying them but I would guess they would do something someone hasn't done in a long time.
wess24m Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 As cool as this pic looks, what are we going to do? Fly A-10s around with P-51s? I guess we have to wait and see. Even if it is just a plane that you can take out for a ride and not combat, I suppose it will still be a nice diversion, and I am sure the modelling of the legends aircraft by ED will be second to none. Imagine though if we could jam all the targeting computers and flight controls into the p-51...I think it would be great for low level sead missions, aside from that it smokes the a-10 in the speed department and good luck locking it up with a manpad :) would be a nice option to fly. Could wreak havac on the choppers and air defences buzzing by at 350+ mph dropping mk-82's in ripple
GGTharos Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Most people think DCS is stuck in a particular era. This isn't the case. It's all about any vehicle, any time. As cool as this pic looks, what are we going to do? Fly A-10s around with P-51s? I guess we have to wait and see. Even if it is just a plane that you can take out for a ride and not combat, I suppose it will still be a nice diversion, and I am sure the modelling of the legends aircraft by ED will be second to none. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
wess24m Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 AS a side note interesting article about them putting the digital cockpit of a a-10c into a prop driven aircraft. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/irregular-warfare-offers-new-role-for-propeller-driven-348848/
Moa Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) You could have said just that - but in any case, ED is aware of the reported problems and a hot fix is being worked on. wess24m, as GGTharos said, ED are well aware of the issues and some of the ED team fly on last *weekend's* massive multiplayer Fly-In to see first hand the problems we were experiencing. While we had some flying with us already it was clear that within a very short time of us logging the first problems there were some ED guys coming in to see - that is, dropping other stuff and working on their *weekend* to help. Yeah, while we all get frustrated with the CTDs (eg. we all complain sometime, including me, and hope for reduced defects in the future) I have to say I was impressed by the team's commitment to sort it out. I've said this elsewhere but I'll say repeat it again here. The first massive multiplayer Fly-In had numerous server crashes. We gave the logs to ED and they did such a great fix-job that we only had very few server crashes during the second Fly-In event (two servers, 48 hours, with 50-60 players between the servers). It would nice for it to be a perfect record but it was a vast and welcome improvement. From the second Fly-In we obtained a lot of information about client-side issues - which appear at first blush to be mostly related to the large amount of new features (the old features/code seemed mostly ok). Again we've tried to supply useful information, and some of the ED team were present to get their own logs as well. So they are not only aware of the issues, they were very active in trying to monitor and diagnose them early. I fully expect additional patches to address these issues and will make the third Fly-In even better (as well as fixing routine single- and multi-player play). Hope that sheds some light on recent CTD work (as seen from 'outside the tent' on the community side). ED are making progress (although sometimes it appears Sisyphean). Edited November 15, 2011 by Moa
aaron886 Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 If I were to guess at the flying legends aircraft or series...I would pick what others in this thread have mentioned. F-86 Sabre Mig-17 Mig-19 Mig-21 F-104 F-4 Phantom I personally would be surprised if ED did WW2 era aircraft...I wouldn't mind flying them but I would guess they would do something someone hasn't done in a long time. Stop. Stop guessing. Read the thread, the correct aircraft has already been mentioned. It's not rocket science.
Moa Posted November 15, 2011 Posted November 15, 2011 Most people think DCS is stuck in a particular era. This isn't the case. It's all about any vehicle, any time. Well, from the Lua we can see it seems that LockOn and DCS are well built using 'physical' units and principles. That was a good early design to take all those years ago (contrast some software companies that will do any hack to get a few percent speed improvement).
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