Teamspeak and TARS

[zyph3r]

How do you configure TARS to work with a10c? Do you have to set up a channel on TS or is it enough to just open up TS and then switch to the right channel inflight?

 

Looking for some squadron that use TARS, if you one of them, let me know.

 

Btw i #%&/&%¤ LOVE this SIM, dont get much sleep@night thoug... :)

 

Cheers

 

EDIT: PS. for newbies like me so you know what we talk about; http://addons.teamspeak.com/directory/plugins/miscellaneous/TARS-Tactical-Aviation-Radio-System.html

Edited November 30, 2011 by zyph3r

[Eddie]

How do you configure TARS to work with a10c?

 

Install it as per the instructions.

 

Do you have to set up a channel on TS or is it enough to just open up TS and then switch to the right channel inflight?

 

No need to do anything in TS beyond ensure the TARS plugin is active. TARS only affects incoming transmissions, anyone not using TARS in the same TS channel will hear you. But you will only hear people tuned to the same radio frequencies adn the same radio you are in the sim. TARS uses it's own press to talk keypresses seperate from the PTT you set in the TS options screen, one for each radio as per the real aircraft.

 

 

Looking for some squadron that use TARS, if you one of them, let me know.

 

We use TARS heavily in the 1st, in fact without it we couldn't fly the way we do.

[STP Dragon]

We tested it some days ago with a Ka-50 flight, a A-10 flight and one A-10 AFAC.

The Ka-50's where on AM, the A-10's where on UHF and the AFAC-A-10 was on FM.

 

It was lots of fun but it worked not 100%.

Sometimes some guys can't hear other guys they should hear them and guy's who should not hear them, heared them.

It was a bit confusing and we want to wait for the next version of TARS.

[Eddie]

It was lots of fun but it worked not 100%.

Sometimes some guys can't hear other guys they should hear them and guy's who should not hear them, heared them.

It was a bit confusing and we want to wait for the next version of TARS.

 

Sounds like distance/terrain masking to me. We don't have any issues, other than occasional TARS installation errors from time to time.

[STP Dragon]

@ Eddie: Do you guys fly A-10 together with Ka-50?

[zyph3r]

Thx Eddy!

 

So if im joining a flight that use TARS, im just have to connect with TS flight channel, joggle radio to right frequenses and use the push to talk button... Is that correct?

 

Would be nice to fly with you in the 1:st someday..

 

Have to train some more first. I succesfully flew a mission yesterday, "Green Zone 2", very cool but short. I can recommend it, the plot is that you should hunt down a suicide truck in green zone..

[Eddie]

@ Eddie: Do you guys fly A-10 together with Ka-50?

 

Not for formal Squad activities, but I and a couple of other members have flown the Hokum in squad training flights using TARS without issue, other than loss of comms due to terrain/distance.

 

Obviously the Hokum will notice line of sight issues with comms much more than the Hogs due to the low altitude at which it operates.

 

Thx Eddy!

 

So if im joining a flight that use TARS, im just have to connect with TS flight channel, joggle radio to right frequenses and use the push to talk button... Is that correct?

 

Yep that's it. But you just need to remember that when using TARS there is a PTT for EACH of the A-10s radios, so you need to make sure you use the correct one for the radio you wish to talk on.

Edited November 30, 2011 by Eddie

[pitbull]

I don't mean to hijack this post, but i'm trying to figure out how to use TARS and Radio Menus on the MIC switch. What I did is create a modifier using the paddle switch of the Warthog. I then assign Paddle + Mic switch FWD for AM, DOWN for UHF and AFT for FM. The commands are picked up by the sim no problem.

 

In TARS I assigned keystrokes that are not used by the sim for the MIC FWD, Down and AFT. I configured Joy To Key with same keystrokes.

 

SO if I do Paddle + Mic FWD, I have the AM menu in game. If do Mic FWD, I transmit on the AM radio no problem.

 

The only issue I have is when I use the modifier, TARS transmit on whatever radio i'm trying to select. The same as if I was doing a TARS Tx. It`s only for a split second mind you, it doesn't bother me, but it could potentially annoy the squad mates though. Any ideas?

Edited November 30, 2011 by pitbull

[Eddie]

I don't mean to hijack this post, but i'm trying to figure out how to use TARS and Radio Menus on the MIC switch. What I did is create a modifier using the paddle switch of the Warthog. I then assign Paddle + Mic switch FWD for AM, DOWN for UHF and AFT for FM. The commands are picked up by the sim no problem.

 

In TARS I assigned keystrokes that are not used by the sim for the MIC FWD, Down and AFT. I configured Joy To Key with same keystrokes.

 

SO if I do Paddle + Mic FWD, I have the AM menu in game. If do Mic FWD, I transmit on the AM radio no problem.

 

The only issue I have is when I use the modifier, TARS transmit on whatever radio i'm trying to select. It"s only for a split second mind you, it doesn't bother me, but it can annoy the squad mates though. Any ideas?

 

Limitation of DX buttons. Although you are using a modifier, that modifier is only known to DCS, as far as windows is concerned it's just another DX button press. You are still pressing mic switch forward (or whichever) so the DX commands for that button is still being sent to the PC and therefore picked up by joytokey.

[VTJS17_Fire]

We use TARS mixed with Sharks and Hogs in our squadron, no problems at all. UHF, AM and FM work fine.

 

 

kind regards,

Fire

[pitbull]

Limitation of DX buttons. Although you are using a modifier, that modifier is only known to DCS, as far as windows is concerned it's just another DX button press. You are still pressing mic switch forward (or whichever) so the DX commands for that button is still being sent to the PC and therefore picked up by joytokey.

 

Thanks for the explanation!!! I guess it does make sense, sadly. No I know that I didn't do it wrong ;o)

 

cheers!!

 

pitbull

[Laud]

Hold on Eddie! The Key-combination assigned to TARS are Hot-Mic selectors, and not PTT-buttons. You select the radio you want to transmit (!) on, and then use your usual PTT/voice activation to talk on that selected radio.

[Eddie]

Hold on Eddie! The Key-combination assigned to TARS are Hot-Mic selectors, and not PTT-buttons. You select the radio you want to transmit (!) on, and then use your usual PTT/voice activation to talk on that selected radio.

 

You can use it that way, but the tars assignments are indeed actual press to talk buttons. No need to use your 'normal' TS PTT.

[STP Dragon]

@ Eddie & Fire:

Hm.. I don't know what was going wrong for our flight.

 

Maybe some of our guests which had this problems still had activated "Easy communications"?

What's your experiance with this setting and TARS?

[Eddie]

@ Eddie & Fire:

Hm.. I don't know what was going wrong for our flight.

 

Maybe some of our guests which had this problems still had activated "Easy communications"?

What's your experiance with this setting and TARS?

 

TBH, apart from briefly testing it from time to time, I've never used easy comms and I don't know anyone who does. I suppose it's possible it could cause issues, but as long as the relevant radio is on the correct freqency it should be fine.

 

The only thing I can think of apart from what I've already mentioned is that perhaps some of the pilots involved weren't using the radios correctly. If you're not used to using the radio in a realistic manner, having to do so for TARS is a bit of a learning curve and can be problematic for inexperienced guys.

[STP Dragon]

No no. The guys used it correctly, we checked it step by step.

The problem was: I (in A-10) switched OFF AM and UHF. Only the FM was ON.

A other guy in the Ka-50 switched OFF FM and talked by using AM.

The other Ka-50 guys on AM can't hear him but I did.

 

But nevermind! If you guys don't have problems with TARS, the problem surely was by the guy. Maybe because of easy comms.

[Eddie]

Yeah, my first thought would be to try the same test without easy comms, if there is no problem then you know easy comms is the culprit.

 

I don't really see why you'd use easy comms with TARS anyway, kind of defeats the object somewhat.

[STP Dragon]

I don't use easy comms!

But maybe some of our guests.

[BIGNEWY]

I currently use easy comms ( can not get my head around the radios yet lol )

 

TARS works great even on easy comms, 3 of us use it when we practice together and its great :)

[Eddie]

I currently use easy comms ( can not get my head around the radios yet lol )

 

TARS works great even on easy comms, 3 of us use it when we practice together and its great :)

 

If you can't get your head round the radios, how do you use TARS? :huh:

 

Given that you have to use the radios in order to use TARS. the two statements contradict each other. :smilewink:

[BIGNEWY]

If you can't get your head round the radios, how do you use TARS? :huh:

 

Given that you have to use the radios in order to use TARS. the two statements contradict each other. :smilewink:

 

On easy comms we still hear the effect TARS gives on TS which adds a nice depth to the sim : )

[Headspace]

Easy comms shouldn't affect anything either way. TARS hooks into the flight instruments in the sim, not your user interface.

 

Now, there is an issue (trivial fix) in the Black Shark 2 version of TARS where the KA-50's VHF-1 radio (the R828) thinks it's on AM. I'll be releasing a new TARS this weekend that fixes that. So maybe that's where the problem is.

 

The best way to fix a TARS problem is always to check out the logs it produces. I will always look at them for you if you need me to (time permitting of course!).

 

Distance masking, but not terrain masking, is currently what is implemented. It assumes a perfectly spherical Earth at this point (sorry to kill your suspension of disbelief). Terrain masking will go in once I figure out the most efficient way to pull terrain data into the TARS plugin from DCS.

Edited December 1, 2011 by Headspace

[Sarge55]

Thanks for clarifying that Headspace. We were scratching our heads the other day on why a AM radio was communicating with a UHF one.

[Ranger79]

Anyway to get DX buttons, switches to be seen by tars? Alot of people use default tm warthog profile with a10, cant map tm keys to ptt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[sobek]

Anyway to get DX buttons, switches to be seen by tars? Alot of people use default tm warthog profile with a10, cant map tm keys to ptt. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

You either need to use joytokey/T.A.R.G.E.T. or you need to wait until Headspace has the time to code it into TARS. AFAIK it's on the whishlist. I'm sitting on the fence for this, too. :)