Stratos Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 As we can't load the BS with a all-Vikhr loadout (most missions uses a loadout that carry rockets), I usually take some rocket pods with me, but I think they're a weapon extremely hard to use, I can't aim with them properly, and their range to hit anything with my skills is ridiculous, so can someone post a tutorial or explain how to use HE and AP rockets properly please? Thanks. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
Jona33 Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 Rockets aren't exactly designed to be accurate. More to blow up anything nearby with a dozen of them. There was a good tutorial on SimHQ a while back. Basically find and lase the target. Check the knob on the rear panel is the correct number. Peform a straight run in and fire away. I generally use medium burst length with the S-8's and short with everything else. (Optional next part) Then go flyby view, pop flares because they look cool and perform a dramatic break off and then show off about it down the pub with you mates. :P Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
EtherealN Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 Like Jona33 said: you are not expected to be accurate with them. Rocket attacks constitute an airborne artillery asset. Look at 2:10 specifically - that's how these things are used. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
KosPilot Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 Sometimes I send off a ripple of rockets as a last resort when my stores are depleted or my Shkval is taken out. Otherwise I put them to good use and pop them in pairs into low threat targets from close range. Not too close though; I don't enjoy shooting myself in the face with shrapnel. I think "minimum" engagement range is 2000m, but seriously, no one should expect to snipe anything beyond 1000m using rockets! You could also use them to bombard an area where trees are obscuring whatever is shootin' scrap at you. Just hang back and hope for secondary explosions. As you say, you'll need good flying skills and fair weather to acheive that steady aim. Just keep at it and pop off targets from close range to start with. Some say rockets are not to be released while in the hover because of the danger of sucking fumes into your engines. In the sim (just as "minimum" engagement range) that is not a problem. What you WILL experience is that the rockets are affected by the rotor downwash, so when firing rockets from the hover, you'll need to aim low. Forward speed will give an easier and more accurate aim. I am happy to post a track if you think that may help.
213 Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 i snipe with em. have no choice. huge lag when you send out a medium or larger burst.
KosPilot Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Here is a track for you :)Rocket Training.trk
JHzlwd Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 More About Rockets It's largely a matter of practice. You have to learn to anticipate the drift and accommodate that, which is the main challenge. For example, if the helicopter is rotating to the right during release, the rockets will impact somewhere to the right of where the targeting reticle aims. I find them very useful against larger targets like buildings, storage tanks and parked aircraft where you don't usually want to waste a Vikhr. IOW, save the rockets for easy targets. Since you get a lot of them they can also be useful as a sort of "shot gun". If there's a sniper or MANPAD hidden in the woods I like to saturate the area with rockets and hit something soft. As others have pointed out, rockets aren't meant to be very accurate but close-in, with suitable targets, you can still do a lot of damage. Because they are unguided there is no setup time (unlike Vikhrs) and have occasionally saved myself by using them immediately when ambushed - just spray 'em around in general direction of the threat and hope for the best. Often works. Best wishes, JH I7-2600K@4322 MHz / Asus P8Z77 Deluxe EVGA GeForce1080 SC Video Samsung EVO 850 SSD / Dell U2711 monitor@2560X1440 Saitek X55 "Rhino" / Logitech G510 Win 10 Pro 64 bit
Stratos Posted January 18, 2012 Author Posted January 18, 2012 What is a the maximum distance you can actually shoot a pair of S-8 HE rockets and hit the target? Should I always use the Skhval for rocket attacks? I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
GGTharos Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 In real life you can expect 500-800m for really accurate rocket placement, according to some heli combat training study. I don't think it's much different in black shark. Generally speaking, you're probably asking the wrong question. Rockets are not, and were never intended to be precision weapons. There is certainly some exception when it comes to the larger bunker-busting rockets, where you need a direct hit ... but then your target also tends to be quite larger. For precision engagements where you're not just hosing an area down, use the vikhrs. If you're attacking a soft target from close range, use the gun (unless you have a reason to use another weapon, obviously). When attacking an area target (multiple soft or very lightly armored vehicles, infantry, etc) hose the place down with rockets from as far away as you can. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Bungle_uk Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 A really good article that might interest you on rockets: http://www.simhq.com/_air14/air_508a.html 1
KosPilot Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 A really good article that might interest you on rockets: http://www.simhq.com/_air14/air_508a.html Wow, I'll start using that trajectory dial. Thank you for sharing this link! :thumbup:
leafer Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I can't watch that link. You're talking about the 0-9 dial behind your right shoulder? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Xxx Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Rockets are perfect for supression, to get enemy heads down. Not to mention taking off a few! Or for marking targets, or for illuminating targets, at night!!:D. My Night Fight Vid:- http://youtu.be/lUHNKaQPp2I And the practice weps vid with a mighty full salvo rocket launch!;- http://youtu.be/2gK76g1rrP0 As for use. I prefer to fire medium to full load bursts!:D If you have a look at a track, in external view, with a full load salvo, they look very impressive. Imagine being on the receiving end!!:music_whistling: But it would be nice sometimes to just carry all Vikhrs? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]i7 Haswell @ 4.6Ghz, Z97p, GTX1080, 32GB DDR3, x3SSD, Win7/64, professional. 32" BenQ, TIR 5, Saitek x55 HOTAS. Search User Files for "herky" for my uploaded missions. My flight sim videos on You Tube. https://www.youtube.com/user/David Herky
KosPilot Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 I can't watch that link. You're talking about the 0-9 dial behind your right shoulder? It's behind the right shoulder, but 0-10!
71st_Mastiff Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 max effective range on the 8KOM's? "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-128gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
Shein Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 I posted a thread about these in the SIMHQ forums a while back too. Practice practice practice. I harass trucks with them for fun. However, if I try using them against something that shoots back I expect to get shot down. attack helicopters are snipers, using rockets often involves breaking some fundamental rules like NEVER overfly your target To not die in a helicopter, don't get shot at to not get shot at don't freaking get shot at etc, etc. As someone on SIMHQ told me though, 1 or 2 kills for an entire pod of rockets is a good deal.
Puddlemonkey Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 I posted a thread about these in the SIMHQ forums a while back too. Practice practice practice. I harass trucks with them for fun. However, if I try using them against something that shoots back I expect to get shot down. attack helicopters are snipers, using rockets often involves breaking some fundamental rules like NEVER overfly your target To not die in a helicopter, don't get shot at to not get shot at don't freaking get shot at etc, etc. As someone on SIMHQ told me though, 1 or 2 kills for an entire pod of rockets is a good deal. I normally use a pod of rockets and get two kills. The first one is my target. The second one is me! :megalol:
Shein Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 I normally use a pod of rockets and get two kills. The first one is my target. The second one is me! :megalol: I lol'd :beer: hahaha
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