badger66 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Ive had 4 of these in the last week . Always on take off . I also have the failure option switched to off . I disengage the nose steering at 60 kts , and rotate at 125 kts around , with 7 degrees of flap . 2 times the gear wouldnt retract so I had to go around and land . 1 time the gear collapsed , and last night the thing broke off at about 80 kts !!! :megalol: Any ideas please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Gremlins!:smilewink: Actually, it is a known, but hard to pin down, bug. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfidude Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Happens to me a lot. I notice this the most when you stress the wheel when taxiing. If you take a corner a bit faster than you should, or if you forget to engage your nose wheel steering as you throttle up, and you have your foot down on the rudder, and engage it, making the gear snap to the side, it will do some crazy stuff. Though there are times where I do everything properly while taxiing, and nose wheel will still snap off, or my right wheel will stay down and won't retract. I believe there are a few threads that describe that in certain airfields there are invisible bumps on the ground that damage the gear. I have run into those, one airfield is famous for having that on a turn from a taxiway to the runway, and as you are turning it sounds like you just hit a curb. But... I honestly have no idea aside from that. [sIGPIC]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/ralfidude/redofullalmost_zpsa942f3fe.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappen Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 You could try to open the mission in the editor and save it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaponz248 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Badger I have noticed that when I have gear issues it has to do with fast taxi and turning. Normally I will hear a load crunch sound and when I take off one of the gear would fail to retract. Also as RalFi said it could be the airfield. What airfield were you at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeLWS Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I found that if you don't keep some back pressure on the stick during take off the tire likes to bounce on the runway and break stuff. Once I get above 60 knots I start pulling back and hold it till rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostiken Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 There's things you can do that might mitigate it, but it's not really caused by anything realistic - there's a few bugs with high-speed on the ground, you'll hit a dodgy terrain block or something and there goes your nose. There's a few airfields that almost always cause it, I think Batumi is one of them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger66 Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 Badger I have noticed that when I have gear issues it has to do with fast taxi and turning. Normally I will hear a load crunch sound and when I take off one of the gear would fail to retract. Also as RalFi said it could be the airfield. What airfield were you at? Nalchik ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaponz248 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Nalchik ..... Hmmm I dont recall Nalchik being talked about for issues. Do you remember much about your taxi speed and cornering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger66 Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 As far as I remember , nothing hectic , always brake before cornering , by gently tapping on the W key , again , nothing mad . But yeah , possibily 2 of those times were at Batumi . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Occasionally at Nalchik and Beslan, there's a divet along centerline that I try to avoid. (Actually I can't consistently reproduce it.) Edited March 12, 2012 by Tailgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk10mm Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I've had this issue at Mozdok twice while attempting takeoff from 09. For grins i took off from 27 and did not have the problem. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Recruiting open for A-10C and/or KA-50 Squadrons http://www.firstfighterwing.com/forums/content.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It must be like those one way tire spikes you used to find at toll booths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger66 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 There ya go , problem solved :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFall Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 There ya go , problem solved :) Tell me (us) more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I used to have that problem, I started putting forward pressure on the stick until rotation speed is reached, haven't had a snapped gear since. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Just to confirm Revelation "forward" pressure? Not pull back, to take the weight of the nose? That seems counter intuitive. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfidude Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Pushing back onthe stick before reaching rotation speed wont do that much, it will not lift the nose up, and will cause you to sorta bounce, because it wants to lift, but you are not traveling fast enough for it to pull up, so it will go up a bit (but not off the ground), then back down, repeat. Instead I think what he is saying is that if you push on it to keep the nose on the ground, until you reach rotation speed of 120 ~ knots then rotate, you will keep the nose stable. Unless I went wrong somewhere, but that makes sense to me. [sIGPIC]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/ralfidude/redofullalmost_zpsa942f3fe.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger66 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Tell me (us) more. I was refering to post 13 ..... :megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Pushing back onthe stick before reaching rotation speed wont do that much, it will not lift the nose up, and will cause you to sorta bounce, because it wants to lift, but you are not traveling fast enough for it to pull up, so it will go up a bit (but not off the ground), then back down, repeat. Instead I think what he is saying is that if you push on it to keep the nose on the ground, until you reach rotation speed of 120 ~ knots then rotate, you will keep the nose stable. Unless I went wrong somewhere, but that makes sense to me. Ah. I see what you mean. I've been pulling back with the idea of taking the weight off. I'll give it a try. Thanks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Just to confirm Revelation "forward" pressure? Not pull back, to take the weight of the nose? That seems counter intuitive. Correct Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Someone needs to get a repair crew out to Beslan and fix those potholes. I've occasionally had nose gear failure on takeoffs, but this was the first time while landing. It happened during my roll out as I was decelerating using only airbrakes. At 80 kts my nose bounced and next thing I know I'm skidding along on my gun. I was slightly left of centerline, the nose wheel was firmly on the ground and NS steering was not enabled when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Happens to me occasionally as well, but seemingly only when I'm heavy and the wind is strong and turbulent. No problems when the weather is good and the plane lightly loaded however... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I had less than 1/4 fuel and clean (weapons expended), so I don't think weight is a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan3251 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well i have only noticed this at Nalchik ... not anywhere else but than again i havent taken off from all but 3 times in a row at Nalchik and only way is to leave stick till last moment than pull back as bounces allot .... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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