ED Team Wags Posted June 9, 2012 ED Team Posted June 9, 2012 Based on the advice of a knowledgeable friend, I picked up a BlackWidow Ultimate keyboard by Razer. Really impressed with the mechanical keyboard and its tactile feedback. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
cichlidfan Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 Congrats. I have the same. It brings back memories of the console keyboard on a VAX.:D Plus, it looks really good. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
metalnwood Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I havent seen it, I will look it up, I spent a lot of time on the old ibm keyboards, great tactile feedback and I kept a couple going for a long time.
EtherealN Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 metalnwood: BlWYLJIibxE I really love mine, I definitely recommend it. The only thing I'd say is that if you tend to stay up real late on the computer in a room where people might hear you, you might want to try finding a silent version (to avoid the clicks waking up spouse/children etcetera), but aside from that I love it. (And I prersonally only have cats, so this is no problem for me.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Sov13t Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I have the K90 from Corsair. Liked the engineering of it over Razer. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis
EtherealN Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) I have the K90 from Corsair. Liked the engineering of it over Razer. I cannot understand that. Sure, the K90 has more macro keys, but they (and the F-keys) are silocone-dome actuated. A clear cost-cutting measure that in my opinion cheapens the product. I got a mechanical keyboard to get away from that mushy hell, not to have a keyboard that gives me a different experience depending on where I am on the keyboard. What I like with the BlackWidow Ultimate (this does not apply to the non-ultimate) is that the switches are binned to have the exact same actuation force all over the keyboard. You lose that with the K90. Edited June 10, 2012 by EtherealN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Sov13t Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) Doesn't bother me one bit. Brushed aluminum design with elevated keys for easy cleaning/maintenance is what got me on board. The Razer looks fugly in that department - in my opinion. Both products use Cherry MX keys, so actuation/consistency is a moot point between the two - Razer marketing is lolz. Edited June 10, 2012 by Sov13t [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis
EtherealN Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Both products use Cherry MX keys, so actuation/consistency is a moot point between the two - Razer marketing is lolz. Actually, no it's not. And Cherry MX is not the same as Cherry MX. There's several models, and there is variance even within them simply as a fact of production methods. Get two products where the only differentiation is binning of the switches, and you'll figure it out. :) I agree Razer's marketing sometimes goes over the mark, but this is an area where they did something that is actual fact, tested by independed journalists that actually paid (as in, not demo samples selected by the marketing department) for both units. This is no different to binning integrated cirquits, you're just testing a different kind of thing for a different type of characteristic. That's specifically what got me to select the Ultimate; people were reacting to the different actuation force on different keys in the non-ultimate. Of course, up to the individual consumer if that it worth it for them, and not everyone will notice it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
metalnwood Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I used to tap away on the old mechanical keyboards until the wee hours of the morning. Good memories of using computers when programming was for fun, dos, unix, the simpler time, nostalgia etc :)
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 :( Using a €10 keyboard off ebay, not fun when typing all day. :envious: Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Cali Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I have 2 G15's and love them! i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
effte Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 (And I prersonally only have cats, so this is no problem for me.) ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
Togg Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I have QPad Mk85 with Cherry MX red. Great and not too noisy (less than MX Blue). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://github.com/Togg-streamdeck/dcs
genbrien Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I have 2 G15's and love them! +1 for the G15:thumbup: Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month?[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe Monitor: Lg 22'' 1920*1080 CPU: i7 2600k@ 4.8Ghz +Zalman CNPS9900 max Keyboard: Logitech G15 GPU:GTX 980 Strix Mouse: Sidewinder X8 PSU: Corsair TX750w Gaming Devices: Saytek X52, TrackIr5 RAM: Mushkin 2x4gb ddr3 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz Case: 690 SSD: Intel X25m 80gb
joey45 Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I'm waiting for mt 1st gen G-15 to start failing.... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
metalnwood Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 There are a lot of good keyboards around that last a long time. When I got one of those microsoft ergonomic 'natural' keyboards I stuck with it for years and had a backup in case it died. Although, if you were using pc's in the early days and had an ibm 8088, 8086 etc then you will remember what a mechanical keyboard can feel like. Built like a tank, people carry knives down dark alleys these days because these keyboards are not made anymore. If you like the feel of that kind of thing they are nice as hell.
EtherealN Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Regarding those old IBM keyboards, there's still companies that make replicas based on the same technology, and there's still some working samples available on auction sites - like you said, built like a tank. http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=907 I have never tried one of these replicas myself, so I cannot vouch for quality or value or anything like that, and even if you don't use them a lot the lack of win-keys are a definitive problem. It is pretty sweet that people are still making those things - or at least variants thereof - though. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
cichlidfan Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 There are a lot of good keyboards around that last a long time. When I got one of those microsoft ergonomic 'natural' keyboards I stuck with it for years and had a backup in case it died. I still have a black MS Natural on my desk (hooked to a different machine) and and two more in the closet. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
neroroxxx Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I use a Mac so I have the Mac keyboard, love it but I had been looking for a keyboard for the dcs world, something with glowing keys so Its easier to tell with the lights out Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
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