rangamatchstick Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Iev been having this problem (one of many) when i start the heli myself, as i take off if i give to much throttle/pitch the two warning come up "RH Engine SVT LIM" and "LH engine SVT LIM", nothing happens if i keep flooring it at a hover but if i start flying forwards and i keep the throttle two high or until these warnings come up the blades will suddenly hit eachother and i crash :mad: i cant figure out whats wrong and its getting annoying. Also (different issue) the heli keeps trying to turn to a certain direction if i do anything with the autopilot/auto correct (big blue bottons, bottom left) and its getting kinda annoying =/
rangamatchstick Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 also it keeps trying to pull back if i release the elevator mid flight until its stopped >=(
Razor5-1 Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 This sounds a bit like new helo pilot syndrome :smilewink: ,just kidding Firstly you are experiencing retreating blade stall, simply put this happens when you reach the helicopters maximum velocity. The blades hit each other because the advancing blade produces more lift than the retreating one and it's a co-axial helicopter. Normal configuration, helicopter rolls over, not blades hit. Second, you need to keep trimming the aircraft to maintain course, you can read about it in the manual. The KA-50 doesn't have an elevator? do you mean something else?
joey45 Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Do you have a track? And welcome to the forums. Also how are you starting the heli? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
rangamatchstick Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 elevator control (nose up nose down), i thought it was blade stall but it doesnt seem to happen when the heli has been setup by the pc =/. ok ill look into trimming it =). Track? not quite shore what you mean =s
159th_Viper Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Track? not quite shore what you mean =s It is a 'Replay' of sorts that we will have a look at and that will tell us where you are erring, enabling us to then tell you what you are doing wrong and lastly enable us to tell you how to do it right. To post a track, do the following: Run the mission and when you have replicated the issue just hit 'Esc' and you will be taken to the debrief screen. On the debrief screen there is a tab that allows you to save the track named 'Save Track'. Click on 'Save Track' and follow the prompts to save the track which will be saved in your Saved Games/DCS...../Tracks folder. Once the track is saved, navigate to the Main screen and hit the 'Replay' tab. Select your track to view and just confirm that the track has saved and is indeed playing back correctly and illustrating the problem as you experienced it in-mission. If you are satisfied, exit SIM and post a reply to this thread. When doing so, you will notice a paperclip icon for attachments in the top toolbar. Click on the paperclip and a new window (manage attachments) will pop up. Hit the 'Choose file' tab on the left and navigate to the location of your track file and hit open. Thereafter hit the 'Upload' tab and the track will upload. Once done, click on the paperclip icon again and the forums will automatically insert the track link for you in your text. Hit the 'Submit Reply' tab and you're good to go. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Razor5-1 Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Just so you know it's called cyclic control for a helicopter. A track is a video replecation for when you complete a flight, then in the debrief, there is an option for watching the "track", you can save it, then post it here, people use it to show problems visually. Edit: Damn sniped, but a far more in depth explanation :P
TurboHog Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Wait for PeterP to reply. He has got a standard beginner reply with some nice links. If it doesn' t happen PM him. It's a nice collection. Also don't miss BigfootMSR's training missions. 'Frett'
rangamatchstick Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 here it is =) right towards the end youll see my fail but (ignore my crappy shooting, im playing with an xbox controller and key board :megalol:) but i got the trimming sorted =)sd.trk
rangamatchstick Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 i do know abit about helis i fly and setup rc helis like these as a hobby although knooowwww were as good as this guy XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_39Z_13TuM, my termonolgy is just crap and iev been trying to explain it to some plane guys at the club in their terms so it hasnt helped lol
Razor5-1 Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 I tested and my rotors collide whether it's already running or cold start.
rangamatchstick Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 try the patrol mission, i cant get the rotors to come anywere near colliding
Razor5-1 Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) From where quick mission? Yes Blades off, I believe the reason you are having trouble in the mission is because of the wind, It has a large effect on retreating blade stall and what direction you are flying relative to the wind. On a very windy day flying into the wind will break the helicopters blades at a lower indicated airspeed than a calm day. Flying away has the opposite effect. Press the wind button on the INU, then fly towards it, it will make your rotors collide I bet ;) Edited August 26, 2012 by Razor5-1
PeterP Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) So here comes my "standard Ka-50 newbie reply" : First download Bigfoots interactive training missions >>> KA-50 Black Shark 2 Training missions Read also besides the manual this: DCS: Black Shark... Technical, Simplified -Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics -Trimming the Ka-50 Black Shark <<<!!!! very important to understand this fully! -Part 1 - Autopilot <<<this too! -Part 2 - Autopilot And when you still have time , read this too: A Stick and Rudder Man's Guide to DCS: Black Shark Here is a useful tweak if you using real rudders: How to unchain the rudder from trim - solution Things you want to have some day too: KA-50 collective: another picture-tale Two MS FFB2 with Cougar Grip Welcome aboard! Edited November 29, 2012 by PeterP
rangamatchstick Posted August 26, 2012 Author Posted August 26, 2012 ok this is going to sound weird im not an excessive noob, i flew all the present missions pretty well (still ge shot down everntualy though) and usualy shoot down 2 helis and a s89t load of ground vehicles it was just the start up i kept stuffing up and didnt know why but now iev got that and the trimmer set its all pretty good =) thanks alot. Also i was flying in the shooting range mission =P.
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