training and your opinion

[Maachine]

i've been working heavily lately. so at night i've been able to throw in only a training flight or 2. i've noticed i suck at bombs in CCIP mode. great with guns and rockets though. so a few questions

 

1. with bombs in CCIP, what mode do you guys find more useful? dive bomb? 3/9? or 5 mil?

 

i find that using 3/9 or 5 mil mode is difficult due to the fact its hard to "sight in" the target. i miss a lot. but dont really find dive bombing that useful. if i'm going to dive into a target i might as well use the gun.

 

2. in regard to CCIP or CCRP mode, which is more used from you experienced players dropping bombs?

 

i understand that CCRP is much more precise, but there must be a use for CCIP "unguided" drops

 

forgive my terminology, still learning here and i'm tired, brain isnt functioning properly. so feel free to correct me.

 

landings are much better by the way, no struggling with the ILS system or comms anymore. even with high fog condtions. thanks guys

[FreeFall]

i find that using 3/9 or 5 mil mode is difficult due to the fact its hard to "sight in" the target.

 

Manual Release is even harder IMHO. I use either CCIP Consent to Release (CR) -mode (I use only 3/9) or CCRP. Mainly CCRP because it is easier.

Edited January 17, 2013 by FreeFall
misunderstanding + added info

[Maachine]

yes, the CR modes are 3/9 and 5mil right?

 

but while googling the CR modes, i found this thread regarding the topic. has lots of good info. probably everything i'm looking for.

 

edit: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1260173

[FreeFall]

yes, the CR modes are 3/9 and 5mil right?

 

Yes they are. :)

[Maachine]

those are the modes i seem to miss the most in

[dumgrunt]

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Edited January 17, 2013 by dumgrunt
gave incorrect advice RE LASTE

[Madone]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98939&highlight=ccip

 

Take a look, it has been discussed to death. Look at the link of Eddie...

 

Hope this helps.

[Maachine]

thanks madone

[WildBillKelsoe]

1. with bombs in CCIP, what mode do you guys find more useful? dive bomb? 3/9? or 5 mil?

 

In order of precision; CCIP dive, CCIP 5 mil, CCIP 3/9, lastly CCRP (with free fall munitions)

In real life, pilots are briefed to use a particular mode to observe ROE's pertinent to minimizing collateral damage. They usually have Z-diagrams of release parameters tailored to their flight plan and hard deck.

 

Personally, I find CCIP to be the most useful. You just have to put the thing on the thing and pickle. But not all the time it is precise because of airspeed changes, windage, and general safety concerns from ground retaliatory fire.

 

But the main thing, is that the deeper the dive angle is, the less the aim of distance required to solidify the PBIL on target, and the less distance the CCIP reticle walks. It has been a subject of controversy in the forums until 476th released their Battle Book for these Z-diagrams. I suggest you research by looking for Andy Bush CCIP bombing in LOMAC guide, Bombing tutorials, and finally, formulating a plan for your needs.

 

You just need to be careful not to smooch the ground because of a dive. Aggressive I say, but effective.

2. in regard to CCIP or CCRP mode, which is more used from you experienced players dropping bombs?

It depends on ordnance loaded. For FFW, CCIP dive, for Smarts, CCRP.

Then again, these are interchangeable with mission demands and updates and ROE's and safety concerns.

[Maachine]

You just have to put the thing on the thing and pickle.

 

hahaha, thanks for the advice wild bill.

[shagrat]

the CDU has a wind correction feature under SYS - LASTE - WIND... there is a thread somewhere that explains it in detail ... enhancing CCIP accuracy to virtually 90% :thumbup:

 

edit: found it - http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=66422

Edited January 19, 2013 by shagrat

[FreeFall]

the CDU has a wind correction feature under SYS - LASTE - WIND... there is a thread somewhere that explains it in detail ... enhancing CCIP accuracy to virtually 90% :thumbup:

 

edit: found it - http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=66422

 

But, it won't work at all. :(

[Maachine]

still a cool option if they ever fix it

 

but thanks for the help anyway :thumbup:

Edited January 19, 2013 by Maachine
to thank someone

[shagrat]

But, it won't work at all. :(

 

hmm, placebo effect then? I stumbled apon that one a few weeks ago and I would swear it made a difference, if I put the ATC wind direction and speed into the CDU... may be it is not accurately modeled yet, but works to a degree? I used no dynamic weather. What I noticed is you may only input certain altitudes, like 7000ft, 13000ft etc. writing this from memory so numbers may vary... :huh:

[Yurgon]

hmm, placebo effect then?

 

I'm not sure. But in another thread, Eddie made it very clear that this feature is not currently implemented.

[shagrat]

I'm not sure. But in another thread, Eddie made it very clear that this feature is not currently implemented.

yeah, the fact that he has access to the bugtracker he will be correct there.

So most definitely a placebo effect. Though, a nice one :megalol:

[Maachine]

try putting in some crazy wind, punch in the numbers and see if it still works like you think.

[Maachine]

that will tell you if its placebo or not