P51 way too nervous... what's wrong?

[Konrad Friedrich]

Ah yes... the curve game.. Shouldn't Mustang drivers NOT set curves on good sticks?

 

I suggest practicing with human multiplayer friends and leave the AI to the AI itself... (unless you're AI)...

 

Maybe it has to do with the personal preference of the player but I totally agree with WildBillKelsoe :thumbup:

Users of a decent Hotas like TM Warthog or the Cougar definetly should steer clear of these axis curves.

Even with a simple stick like the TM160000 (which has high resolution hall sensors also).

Don't even use deadzone settings.

The default settings of the Warthog use a hardware deadzone. And this works pretty good.

 

Just get used to the feel of flying without curves.

And you'll never come back to these settings again.

 

As WildBillKelsoe mentioned: "trim as you push, and offset as you pull"

 

 

I'll love to get involved in more multiplayer practice... but unfortunately there is not that much P-51 flying online. At least not when I got time... ;)

Edited January 27, 2013 by Konrad Friedrich

[WildBillKelsoe]

Maybe it has to do with the personal preference of the player but I totally agree with WildBillKelsoe :thumbup:

Users of a decent Hotas like TM Warthog or the Cougar definetly should steer clear of these axis curves.

Even with a simple stick like the TM160000 (which has high resolution hall sensors also).

Don't even use deadzone settings.

The default settings of the Warthog use a hardware deadzone. And this works pretty good.

 

Just get used to the feel of flying without curves.

And you'll never come back to these settings again.

 

As WildBillKelsoe mentioned: "trim as you push, and offset as you pull"

 

 

I'll love to get involved in more multiplayer practice... but unfortunately there is not that much P-51 flying online. At least not when I got time... ;)

 

Mind you.. CH products sticks are also top quality, even if not hall sensors..

[Konrad Friedrich]

Mind you.. CH products sticks are also top quality, even if not hall sensors..

 

Agreed, just picked this as an example because Joker68 uses an Warthog. ;)

[Vlerkies]

:joystick:

 

Victory!!!

 

:thumbup: :pilotfly:

 

AI Noob, took him out over the sea, slippery little cretan, but got a few rounds on him, a few turns later feet wet he flew himself into the drink to escape the embarresment of being shot down by the Vlerk HAHAHA

[Konrad Friedrich]

:joystick:

 

Victory!!!

 

:thumbup: :pilotfly:

 

:thumbup:

Feels pretty good, huh?

It's hard but not impossible.

Congratulations!

[Vlerkies]

Sure does, what feels even better, after many many hours of IL2 so long ago, is being in a prop plane in a dogfight again. Bloody marvelous!

[Vlerkies]

Well, one of the reasons that Ai bastid gets behind me is the damn seat/headrest/bulletproof save my life thingy.

 

I tell you what, I would take a chainsaw to that thing if I had half a chance.

Its resulting in more deaths than saves at the moment

:D

[VIMANAMAN]

Yeah I know what you mean - that thing as you say should help with not getting your head shot off... but when you want to look around, God dammit!!!

 

You using TIR? - if so you just need to keep facing front and move your head to the side & only then turn your head.

 

If not using TIR then I dunno - but I really do know what you mean :)

[Vlerkies]

Yeah using TiR and have been for years. I think I just need to fine tune the profile a bit so that its easier to look behind and past the headrest.

 

No point in having an intact cranium, but hurtling to the ground at 400mph with no wings

:megalol:

[Der_Fred]

Somting like dis..

 

I don't know how far you've got with this.. but this lot just involved fudging the head positioning.

 

I'm still getting into the the whole LUA scripting thing.. and some other tools.. coz I need to make some decent changes

[Soulres]

with the P51 you really have to tinker with all the Axis settings. make a mission with nothing but hte P51 and you flying at 500 and try. i spent hours if not days perfecting the Axis with my own just FOR the P51d.

and as for upgrading to WIN8, Why fix something that aint broke?win8 is worth as much as win98 :P

[WildBillKelsoe]

its SOP to remap controls with every patch.

[farber2]

If you have an older stick, sidewinder 2 let's say, and you use 64 bit os, will that change your control input? I have had to turn my input way down, like to 60% in the y axis adjust. works good now. just wondering though.

[EvilBivol-1]

If you have an older stick, sidewinder 2 let's say, and you use 64 bit os, will that change your control input? I have had to turn my input way down, like to 60% in the y axis adjust. works good now. just wondering though.

No, should work normally. I've been flying the P-51 with a sidewinder 2 for the last few days and it works very well for me at default input settings.

[Roblex]

I was reading something written by a display pilot who has experience of the P51 which disagrees with most of the above comments about 'linear' being the most accurate and what he says makes sense. DCS have said 'The rudder turns through 90 degrees and every inch the rudder pedal moves gives a constant amount of movement arc' but the problem is that DCS are assuming that P51 controls work the same as A10 controls i.e. that they are server controlled whereas P51s use cables and brute strength. He says that in real life you will never get full rudder deflection at flying speed, you will barely get 45 degrees and for this reason he sets the saturation right down to 50% plus a steep curve. If you want proof, the manual (a transcription from the real 1940s manual) says that you cannot sideslip a P51 because it does not have enough control authority yet in DCS with linear settings you can!