AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Though someone may have already mentioned it in the past I am curious to find out if anyone out there is and or will be working on heavies for DCS, like pilot able 135's even C130's I'm part of a VM "FSXFleet.com" and the main reason we still are using FSX is the lack of heavies. If anyone knows of some heavies that are or may be developed for DCS it would be much appreciated. [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
Cake Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 That would be cool. Btw, I think the B1B qualifies as a heavy, too :) 6700K@4.6 48Gb - 1080Ti Hybrid - Warthog - RIFT
AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 Of course ;) I could name quite a few more.... [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
Cake Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Of course ;) I could name quite a few more.... I like your C130 idea. Makes me think AC130U. But what would be your top five heavy lifters? Would a KC135 fit in? 6700K@4.6 48Gb - 1080Ti Hybrid - Warthog - RIFT
AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 I'd love to have a buddy pilot the AC-130 While I man the guns :D Top five would have to be 5. KC135 4.KC10 3.C17 2.Antonov AN-225 and the Avro Vulcan at number 1. [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
Blaze Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I want DCS: B-1. :D i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
Raven68 Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I want DCS: B-1. :D Would be nice, but larger maps definitely need to be in place for this. :) Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
KLR Rico Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I'm pretty sure "DCS: Stratotanker" would be one of the most boring things ever. Flying the boom might neat the first few times, but the rest of the time is basic navigation while on AP. I think the only "heavy" that would be fun to fly is the Herk. AC-130's are cool and all, but if you want to have some real fun, fly MC-130s! The talon is where it's at for down & dirty, yee haw, hold onto your hat flying! i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Ill put my money on the AC-130J just delivered with its planned programme for next year. 105mm 30mm x 2 Griffon AGM Small diameter bomb on wing and or AGMs and GBU-39 variants! Oh yeah. And cause its a J it will pressurize! I think this aircraft would be where its at. Dont really need multiple people in th bird if you just hold the pylon turn I would imagine. 63 My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org)
jared9191 Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 B-1B would be awesome. Course I wouldn't mind DCS F-111
WildBillKelsoe Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I think on a very basic level, with logistics management recently introduced into world, a C-130 is in order (transport). However, I'm not sure executing a cargo script or coding or (?) would be an easy task. For example, an airbase under attack, one fuel/ammo unit to be lifted to another base. However, combined arms could expand to include actual control of cargo units at bay, but multiplayer wise, I think we need to be cautious as to what to dream of and what reality can give us. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Pyroflash Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Eh, a C-17A might be better for strategic airlifting. For tactical stuff though, a C-130H would be the bees knees. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
Spectre_USA Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 B-1B would be awesome. Course I wouldn't mind DCS F-111 A big +1 to the latter, or the former as the Aardvarks younger brother. I would, of course, not turn my nose up at an AC-130, either H or J model, thanks very much... :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A tale of 2 hogs
AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 Eh, a C-17A might be better for strategic airlifting. For tactical stuff though, a C-130H would be the bees knees. Agreed [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
LC34 Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 What about a C-130 Spectre? That would lead to some pretty neat missions, but being able to jump around the plane to different positions might be hard to make. AMD Ryzen 7 7800X#D 64 GB Ram MSI RTX 4090 Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS
Darkwolf Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 No offense - but since Call of Duty I feel like everyone is font of the AC130 :) .... It may be cool looking and good for room clearing in afghanistan.... .....but I just don't see where it could fit in a modern battlefield such DCS's one with SAMs, mig-21's, Su27s.... Still - I would appreciate a few tactical bombers such B1 or others similar stuff.... For C130', C-17 and others.... Could be fun if some gameplay was involved, such .... ... a dynamic campaign with ressources management :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly:
LC34 Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Agreed about the COD comparison and the newfound love affair with it Darkwolf, but its still one BA ground pounder. As far as the modern battlefield is concerned does anyone know anything about it during Vietnam and if it ever encountered Migs? I know it flew mostly at night, did it ever have to turn and run from a MIG? AMD Ryzen 7 7800X#D 64 GB Ram MSI RTX 4090 Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS
arteedecco Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Hmm.... C-17 or C-130 that allows for loading / unloading troops (think paratroopers jumping out the back to forward deploy)... low level, canyon ingress using NVGs... in formation (fasten your seatbelts). Imagine playing Combined Arms as commander and calling in flights of C-17s to dropp troops / arty / gear. What about slinging loads under CH-47D, etc? Would be neat to be able to use Combined Arms to drive an M1 onto a C-17, or 10 and then fly up to and drop off at a forward airbase. Um.... we're gonna need bigger maps! --> EDGE I'm imagining: :) At first when I read DCS Heavy I thought, "bleah!!!!" Then I thought of all those things above and changed my tune. Still... not willing to sacrifice the fighters coming down the line, but hey... ARMA can do it!!! Why not DCS!!! In fact... wish we could merge the two systems so we could gain the FPS portions of ARMA and some of its abilities while integrating the totally amazing DCS flight modeling. Oh yeah... AND a big one!!! ARMA supports multiplayer vehicles with multiple humans per vehicle. <<--- game changer. Go ED go!!! :) Plllleaaassseee!!! "Snipe" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS => Win7 64-bit Ultimate | MOBO => ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe | RAM => 8GB | VIDEO CARD => XFX ATI 4850 | CONTROLLER => Saitek X52 | DISPLAY => ASUS 25.5" 1600x1280 | HDD => 150GB WD Raptor (10K RPM)
AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 Someone needs to make it happen otherwise I'm going have to get my own team together and develop the aircraft myself :D [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
Blaze Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Someone needs to make it happen otherwise I'm going have to get my own team together and develop the aircraft myself :D Why don't you? :) i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 I'm a lazy bugger and could not cope dusting off Photoshop and 3DS max only to find myself in hole far to deep for my knowledge of creating and implementing a bird in DCS :D [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
arteedecco Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 ^^ seriously :) It's gonna be 3rd party devs (read: community) that make DCS even better. Blaze... do you have any info on time (cost, resources required, etc) / value for developing a new aircraft module for DCS? I mean... is it even possible to make any $$ making a module for DCS? What's the reality? Also... in all seriousness... we are at the mercy of ED for multiplayer, multi-human vehicles at this point, since it's not written into the sim (as I understand it), right? And we'd need ED to update their code to allow for slinging equipment / vehicles and loading vehicles / equipment into aircraft. It's not possible at current state, right? "Snipe" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS => Win7 64-bit Ultimate | MOBO => ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe | RAM => 8GB | VIDEO CARD => XFX ATI 4850 | CONTROLLER => Saitek X52 | DISPLAY => ASUS 25.5" 1600x1280 | HDD => 150GB WD Raptor (10K RPM)
AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 The way I see it is that ED would be total fools if they were not to further support multiplayer going into the future, the only reason I play simulators like DCS, Falcon 4, FSX and so on is the human interaction the community I mean there's only so much fun you can have on your own. [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
arteedecco Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Yeah, I think they're working on it. I mean a lot of people are clamoring for MP to have multi-human player support for upcoming 3rd party modules like F-15E. I am a little shaky on whether or not the sim accounts for it already, or not because I thought I read somewhere that the upcoming UH-1 can support multiple human players at once, but... can't find it anywhere. Anyhow... I think ED is aware of all this and working on it, but first they are targeting getting FC3 and Combined Arms released. Then they're gonna focus on getting the DCS Fighter out the door... theeeeennnn.... we'll see what starts developing. The good news, is that DCS is such an awesome platform that there really is a ton of different directions to go to make it even sweeter. I would like them to put more effort into improving the Mission Editor (scripting) and platform in general after they get the DCS Fighter out the door as opposed to modeling new aircraft. I tend to think that's their intent because of the launch of all the 3rd party modules we saw this past year. Now that there's a platform... let other ppl dev up new aircraft.... similar to Flight Sim paradigm it seems. So... you better start getting your DCS Heavy team put together!!! Once you get a super demanded module out the door you can probably leverage ED to get support in there for other features like we've been discussing (vehicle transport, slinging, etc). "Snipe" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS => Win7 64-bit Ultimate | MOBO => ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe | RAM => 8GB | VIDEO CARD => XFX ATI 4850 | CONTROLLER => Saitek X52 | DISPLAY => ASUS 25.5" 1600x1280 | HDD => 150GB WD Raptor (10K RPM)
AngryBird Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 I'm sure ED will do there best as they are the lead in the market at the moment multi pilot jets like an EA-18G would be amazing, and heavies with the features we have been discussing sure would be just perfect I'm confident that within a year or two some of these features will have been implemented. [sIGPIC]http://link16.net[/sIGPIC]
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