The Production is on....

[frank]

ANTI G - Done

[Panthro]

The only Switch that is not function like the real aircraft is Magnetic Switch

 

where did you find it as I so far have not found this switch!

[Flim]

What are you using for backlighting? Did you make a PCB for each panel?

[frank]

No PCB - tooooooo EXPENSIVE to build this way - no one will buy it....

 

You decide what to light up your panels - my advice is LED strip

 

Ofcourse i have som part with PCB, CDU, UFC, and parts with 7 SEQment

[Deadman]

HI Frank actually it does not take that much to make the knobs back lit just the right building technique. I have been selling back lit knobs a reasonable prices for quite some time.

Mag switches have been hard to find for quote some time you can find them on eBay now but the price is crazy high the canopy switch can be found on eBay some times

 

Hi DeadMan

Yes the panels are to be backlight...

 

No the Knob are not to be backlight.... perhaps on a later state... it takes a lot more workprogress to make the knobs backlight, and by this more expensive to buy for you guys....

 

The picture are in total darkness... put on some floodlight and you are rocking ;)

Edited April 28, 2013 by Deadman

[frank]

Everytime you put 1 hour into building like i do (THE COMPLETE COCKPIT not only single parts of the pit), makes it more expensive.... i agree, i can do the magnetic switch too - see my video on youtube, My way of building these panels are very high cost effective compared to what you get in functionality... i know those of you, hwo want all the detail - i been there my self...

Edited April 28, 2013 by frank

[Deadman]

Hum Fran Hope those cap don't mean you yelling at me:music_whistling:

It is nice to see a builder seller that has a view of the complete project rather than just building panels to fit a personal idea of what may be correct for their application. Your size and scale looks close i hope your sales go well

[frank]

HARS - DONE :thumbup:

[frank]

SAS Panel - DONE :smartass:

 

Now i'm low on SW and POTs.... so awaiting a few days for the part to arrive....

[MTFDarkEagle]

Frank, I MEAN TO REFER TO ONE DEVINE FECAL MATTER...

(If you know what I mean..)

 

Wow, have you so nice panels, why get so "cheap" switches!? Why not get some very fancy locking switches!?

Example:

 

http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NKK-Switches/S21AL-RO/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsqIr59i2oRcnhg9cHo5%252bZ%2f0H0na%2flox%252bc%3d

 

http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NKK-Switches/S7AL-RO/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsqIr59i2oRclENTlTcucIXj2PDVxsUqds%3d

[frank]

Ohhh - BTW - I did the last FACE PLATE for the panels today :megalol:

[frank]

Frank, I MEAN TO REFER TO ONE DEVINE FECAL MATTER...

(If you know what I mean..)

 

Wow, have you so nice panels, why get so "cheap" switches!? Why not get some very fancy locking switches!?

Example:

 

http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NKK-Switches/S21AL-RO/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsqIr59i2oRcnhg9cHo5%252bZ%2f0H0na%2flox%252bc%3d

 

http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NKK-Switches/S7AL-RO/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsqIr59i2oRclENTlTcucIXj2PDVxsUqds%3d

 

Fanzy = Expensive - you just start counting - before you get through 10% of the cockpit you have spend a year income on SW - how many people will then have a A10c cockpit ???

Edited April 28, 2013 by frank

[hegykc]

I too don't understand you builders with original components. And then you go on saying there's not enough interest for a more serious production of 200$+ panels... I wonder why.

 

Frank, your plan is as good as gold! Stick to it.

[frank]

I too don't understand you builders with original components. And then you go on saying there's not enough interest for a more serious production of 200$+ panels... I wonder why.

 

Frank, your plan is as good as gold! Stick to it.

 

I do understand the builders that want the real part - and those of you hwo want the 100% lookalike - BUT

- I BUILD FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE

 

The most important is FUNCTIONALITY - then we will compromise the look

Edited April 28, 2013 by frank

[hegykc]

Yeah that's what I'm talking about, building for everyone. And everyone means 98% people wanting a cockpit on a budget, and 2% interested in a complete replica.

 

It's pretty clear to me which market a (commercial) builder should choose.

[MTFDarkEagle]

Oh yes absolutely!! I agree 100%! I'm not saying do ALL the switches, hell that would be costly! Only use locking switches where the real aircraft uses them, which I think are the AHCP switches (Arming & TGP, CICU,JTRS,IFFCC) and the CDU/EGI. You know, as an option :)

Damn fine work sir! Damn fine work. Looking forward to getting some panels as soon as you are producing them in quantity! :)

[Deadman]

I am a bit confused here frank control panels are fairly straight forward in size and layout what really needs to be change for the panel to function?

 

I mean the panels function is to light or label what ever switch it is holding in a specific position. It need to be a specific size (back supporting plate 5.75 wide and the appropriate height depending on the plate)to fit in the counsel not that big of a deal.

I have not seen you list any size to confirm how they may fit int to peoples current pit builds.

As of yet I have not seen any of your panels list and price for sale.

So there is no way to speculate on the affordability of any of your future products that may be listed in the for sale section.

The only ovious thing I have seen on your panel that the font is not correct but you could easily fix that.

 

These are just questions and observation from some one that has provided information and product to pit builders on the form. Not criticisms in any way if they seem to be i apologize in advance.

 

 

I do understand the builders that want the real part - and those of you hwo want the 100% lookalike - BUT

- I BUILD FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE

 

The most important is FUNCTIONALITY - then we will compromise the look

[Deadman]

This seams to be direct at me or am i just miss understanding some thing here?

 

I too don't understand you builders with original components. And then you go on saying there's not enough interest for a more serious production of 200$+ panels... I wonder why.

 

Frank, your plan is as good as gold! Stick to it.

[Rockeyes]

Good luck frank, as you say it's all down to price. I would be willing to give up some authenticity for practicality and cost saving. To me its about the participation in the community with like minded guys and increasing the imersion of the simulator. Apart from the standardisation of the panel size I'm not at all worried about a shades of colour of this or that or a few millimetres here or there. After all the Thrustmaster Hotas most of us use in not 100% accurate but there's a lot of guys that have them and only one or two have genuine controls. Good luck I say and keep up the good work and keep those posts coming.

[frank]

Nobody missunderstod anything - we all want the best and the right way

 

The panels is build after real drawings - I made some small mod. on some of them by moveing the SW, POTS etc to make it easier to build...

 

I attached a picture.... from my bedroom -

[Rockeyes]

Sweeeeeet:thumbup:

[tacno]

Huge work what you do there, Frank ! :thumbup:

 

But from which planet do you come ? Here, on Earth, days last 24 hours ? I feel that yours lasts 200 hours ...

 

Keep it up.

[agrasyuk]

that is one fast build. i wish i could work on my stuff full time instead of going to work :jealous:

 

I do understand the builders that want the real part - and those of you hwo want the 100% lookalike - BUT

- I BUILD FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE

 

The most important is FUNCTIONALITY - then we will compromise the look

yes , we all choose what area to compromise and what areas we go all the way. the part offered is not the original, and is fraction of original cost. yes it is some extra $ over cheep switches from china, but AHCP panel does look much better with it. and if you didn't care about looks only function as you say why would you bother building all the non functional items like anti-G, TISL and such ?;) so i call BS, you are after looks after all :)

 

I too don't understand you builders with original components. And then you go on saying there's not enough interest for a more serious production of 200$+ panels... I wonder why.

not sure where is the contradiction here. builders with original components probably shooting for all original parts build. why would they be interested in non original stuff? and how much is exactly "enough" ?

 

 

 

The only Switch that is not function like the real aircraft is Magnetic Switch

canopy switch is magnetically held IRL?

Edited April 29, 2013 by agrasyuk

[Deadman]

If you have built off of real drawings by this it would mean the real contractor drawing of DOD drawing there would be no reason to move any switch, rotary or button there is plenty of room in all of the panels for real and cheap replacements so i would say a bit of BS is going on.

 

 

Nobody missunderstod anything - we all want the best and the right way

 

The panels is build after real drawings - I made some small mod. on some of them by moveing the SW, POTS etc to make it easier to build...

 

I attached a picture.... from my bedroom -

[TimeKilla]

Yeah that's what I'm talking about, building for everyone. And everyone means 98% people wanting a cockpit on a budget, and 2% interested in a complete replica.

 

It's pretty clear to me which market a (commercial) builder should choose.

 

Yup agree 100% :thumbup:

 

No everyone has the money now a days if it looks real and works there's np IMV.

Edited April 29, 2013 by TimeKilla